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Meh. It's political.

Pipes and cigars I can understand. Cigarets are tasteless. Shame it makes you dead, slowly.

Keep reading and thinking. You haven't got there yet. See especially "What a private Language is" in the Wiki article.

When I wrote that, I chose the wording with care. I had in mind the very misinterpretation you make, and hence chose "a language understandable by onl...

There's a bit more to it.

Well, there's the festival in honour of Eostre, from whom we get both Easter and estrogen. She is into hares and eggs, fertility stuff. Some cultural ...

Yeah, they are not useful. This reinforces the view that, for all the "clever", they are bullshit generators - they do not care about truth.

This...

Good Friday. Hot cross buns. And Life of Brian.

That's right. The idea that science give a view from everywhere is wrong. The scientific view is from anywhere.

One presumes that meaning divorced from use is... useless? The Principle of Relativity doesn't say that accounts can be true from everywhere. It says ...

Cheers, noticed your mention a couple of times. I haven't been following this thread, although I probably should be. It's a good OP. I think I agree w...

You've met @"Janus". Might put on some popcorn...

I think my point might not have been clear enough. I don't think we share concepts, because a concept is just the way we use a word, and not a thing t...

Well, given some of the other posts here... Funny you mention being in a slump. I've a couple of really nice Gretsch guitars, a resonator and a G5420T...

You are using that terms a lot. I'm sugesting that it might be misleading. I don't think you are. As it, transmitting ideas and concepts is not the wh...

I dug it out - a bit embarrassing that I still have it - Through Space and TIme, a 1963 reprint of his 1933 Royal Institution Christmas Lectures. $346...

But that's not peculiar to mental phenomena. My use of "Andrew" does not "captured in the physical description of body parts". Your use of "Paris" doe...

Goodness, that brings back memories - of a well-thumbed paperback full of fuzzy black-and-white images that as a child I found awesome – in the real m...

Again, and yet we do. And that is not the same as not being able to describe anything we experience. Again, we do describe things. The beetle argument...

Such inversion problems might be more complex than you suppose. I would go with their being behaviourally undetectable, after Wittgenstein. That is, i...

Thanks.

yeah, it does. There are papers I came across where he and his students claim to be clarifying more empirical stuff, like vision, and he gives some ac...

I play a bit of guitar. I don't read sheet music. You know the old joke, "How do you stop a piano player? Take away the sheet music. How do you stop a...

Telling an Australian how to punt? :lol: In the post in which this discussion started, you claimed that one could accept idealism and realism simultan...

Good point.

I'll leave you to it. Not much more I can offer you. Maybe more tomorrow.

That's not me, that's Andrew. He says that it is "only accessible first-person"; only "I have a pain", no "He has a pain" and no "Andrew has a pain".

Yep.

Yep. That's why your pain is not just a thing inside your head that only you can refer to. If it were, no one else could talk about it. That's the pro...

See If "Only accessible first-person" means that one can only talk about it to oneself, then it is private in the requisite sense, and drops out of co...

Of course you can. So it's not private. That's the point. A private language is one only you understand.

But if you can talk about it to others, then it is by definition not private. And so, since we are talking about it, it's not happening only inside yo...

Oh, Michael. The first is by way of assumption in the reductio of the beetle argument that shows the second to be problematic. If one sets up a privat...

Ex hypothesi, this cannot be done. You can't show me a copy of your pain, or your red qual. Even if you can refer to it, and that is not clear, it doe...

This seems to me to be the same as the beetle. The beetle "happens" to one person but no other, and as a result drops out of conversation.

So sure, my pain is felt by me. That's why we call it "my pain". I said that above. What of it? Problems occur when someone makes claims such as that ...

A private language is a language that someone else cannot understand. Hence, if something is private, the it is not available for discussion. Yet syne...

Far and away the biggest problem with "studying the Subjective" is that it is very unclear what "the subjective" is. Because if something is available...

It isn't evidence at all, of any private unsharable phenomena. Sure, but that does not mean you have no idea of what he is talking about. We do unders...

What's a pulsating headache like? Well, it's pulsating... So you don't have to have had one to know what it is like. You won't have experienced it, su...

Yeah, you can, because they can tell you. Indeed, that's how we know about synaesthesia. It's not private.

Sure. You do not have my pain. That's just a fact of the way "pain" works – of the grammar of "pain". There's nothing "in principle" that prevents my ...

What does "private" mean here? Sure, I don't see red when I hear C?, but I do see red and I do hear C?. We have a common language for a shared world i...

I don't see a problem here. Are you suggesting that synthesis is private? No, it isn't since we can talk about it.

Yeah, odd. So applying, just for a discussion point, Davidson's radical interpretation, how would one know that the posited creature was seeing green,...

But that's not right... and so on. So the premise of your argument is misplaced. No, they are not. All such phenomena are public: we can and do talk a...

Good question. We'd need a good formulation of it to check. It strikes me as muddled from the start, in that it says the document icon on my desktop i...