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notice that the following is phrased in the first person plural" The argument is not that I know dreams are unlike waking experiences, it's that we kn...

Did you think doing philosophy would be easy? Yeah, take care on the forums. There are a lot of confused folk here.

That's a bit cruel. Poor . Are you trying to induce more existential shock? Yes, a man of faith, but a devout atheist. Did you mean Kierkegaard?

Can you change the tree with words? Ordering it cut down will certainly change it.

Yeah, there's a need to go back to the text.

Ok. Let's set this aside, but only for now. It's where all these considerations either come together or burst. But if we go there now we may never fin...

His is a misinterpretation of the Tractatus. Where Wittgenstein honoured what could only be shown, not said, Ayer thought we could dispense with it. M...

Yep. I linked the text earlier in the thread. I've been re-reading it as I read Austin. (That's part of the reason it takes so long to post on each le...

Showing that Ayer's metaphysics is misconceived is itself a deeply metaphysical activity.

It's a cliché, but you have missed the wood for the trees. Austin is not just analysing speech.

We're approaching a point of difference, perhaps, in that for me, there is a place, if not for certainty, then at the least for confidence in our unde...

Ok, just by way of an example, how might Austin have replied to your first point? His first reaction might have been to point out that this is some of...

That's the very point at issue.

I read this and found "All along the watchtower" playing in my head - the Hendrix version... There are folk hereabouts who have come to philosophy fro...

Hmm. Perhaps you missed that the group I linked to is at it's core for academics and other cognoscenti in sustainability and environment science and s...

Quite agree. This seems to be coming to the fore - that there is no single way in which to be conscious. For me the key here was Davidson's A nice der...

An excellent series of posts. I can't avoid the suspicion that what you are doing is reading Cavell into Austin; that the arc expressed here is not as...

Ok. Yeah, it's attracted some fine, intelligent comment, and gone in a few unexpected directions. Most pleasing.

Meh. Keeping to one book or article has proved to be a good way to manage a thread. I've done a few of them. The topic has induced more interest than ...

That's pretty general. I don't see anything specific enough there to warrant a detailed reply, and in any case, my purpose and interest here is specif...

:grin: Good stuff. Very droll! Hope others are enjoying these jokes. See 's comments regarding representation and mental imagery. There's a lot of var...

I'm sorry, , but what are you referring to with "contemporary criticisms and analyses on the points laid out in his works"? There's lots of critique o...

I think that's about right. Yep. Another case of making the box then trying to squeeze stuff in.

Oh, yes. Those who suggest these are just linguistic quibbles haven't understood that how we talk about the world is how we understand the world.

Check out these Ngrams, just out of interest. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=J.+L.+Austin%2C+Norman+Malcolm&year_start=1800&year_end=20...

Yes, Hanover. Folk need such myths. You seem to think you have made an important point. But your comments look instead like expressions of your need t...

I find the ideas intriguing, although as I said I am only familiar with them by proxy. However it seems to me that there is a difficulty in Malcolm's ...

Probably not. Not really their style. He's more likely to have a mental illness and to have misunderstood some ancient historical fiction. Yes, you ar...

Cheers. Not your usual help group, consisting to a large degree of academics in the areas of environment, economics and sustainability. Yes, a sociolo...

Anyway, turns out there is a sort of self-help group for those who have worked out that we are in deep shit. https://www.deepadaptation.info Some folk...

Why, thanks. It is odd that the point needs to be made, really. How many threads start by defining the terms to be used instead of examining them? But...

:rofl: Ok. It's again a methodological point. One of the departures for Ordinary Language Philosophy from other forms of analytic philosophy is that i...

An observation, not an argument.

Get in line.

One says "Why should we believe?"; the other "Why should we doubt?". Both are useful. Dropping either one altogether leads to irrationality. My favour...

Sad, that folk are taken in by that line of thought. Sick, really, that they accept such twaddle because it fits in with the need to assuage fear and ...

No.

Well, pretty much all of them. It's not too hard, with the aid of a tool such as the OED, to pick out the main instances. Even easier now, with online...

Why is that the question? Why not "What grounds do you have for doubt?"

If you like. It was your interlocutor rather than you whom I had in mind. Sure, dismiss this as a mere bookish quibble.

Ok, so what do you think Austin might have to say here? Well, for a start, the word "real" in "nothing is really as it seems" should bring on some hes...

I'm pretty confident that in places where there are no firearms, there are no deaths by firearm.

Why should it? There is a very clear distinction to be made between imagining a cup and pouring tea into it. And a long historical agreement that perc...

VIII Austin returns to Ayer's text armed with the contents of the previous lecture. Ayer has attempted to explain perception, making a distinction bet...

VII In addition to what has said, I'd like to emphasises the method that Austin explicates on p. 63. Words already have uses. Elsewhere Austin says Th...

So in outline, Ayer was looking for certainty, and in the process misused and muddled the terms and concepts he was working with. Austin's approach, a...

Comprehensive. Well done. This is an argument I have made use of many times. I have several times used this quote from Austin's Other minds: An exampl...

Sure. Some might suppose that the conceptual work of the philosopher must give way to the empirical evidence of the scientist but that would be to for...

You're a bit of a dill.