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And you deduce, or perhaps infer, the existence of the world, including the things around you, from what the senses present to you? How does that work...

And these sense, they involve eyes, skin, and other bodily parts? Can you see where I am going - you assume that these things exist as a part of your ...

Thank you. Sensory stimulation takes place, then?

A bald assertion. Do you agree that sensory experience provides us with knowledge of the things around us?

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I've quite lost track of where you stand on the issue at hand, there being too many voices here. I lost you in the noise. There was this: and this: An...

Meh. Again, I would be very surprised to find any disagreement as to the physics or physiology of perception here. Hence, and this is addressed to all...

, ; drop colour and re-phrase this in terms of shape. What happens? Yeah, it was.

Any event we see occurred in the past, therefore we never see any event. How's that again?

Again, this is a bad question. You say you want to leave out the word "direct', and yet you keep putting it back. Your inclusion of the terms "distal"...

For my part, the issue is that some folk think there is a need to justify that they see this text, even as they read it. But that is a symptom of an e...

So let's go back to this, then, while I have your attention - what is "the epistemological problem of perception"? In particular, is there only one?

...utterly missing the point of those around you. The science is accepted by both "sides". You still haven't come to terms with that simple fact. If y...

Says the guy who has spent weeks asserting that direct realism is false because it denies indirect realism.

Yes, Atheism.

Hmm. I wonder if this is more about Plato than Socrates? Interesting. Thanks for the discussion with .

A special program to breed more blind farmers?

:wink: Maybe you need to get out more.

A western example, but in that trashy book of lies, the guardian, so you won't have seen it. OMG, he drives and uses a chain saw!! You would benefit f...

Oh, . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWlTcF1JPk The world is an amazing place.

It seems you are describing the totality of possible worlds. Modal logic sets out your answer.

Otherwise, by your account, Socrates actively sort out her company. Xanthippe may have been making the point that Socrates would have no further oppor...

Can you not see that these are both wrong? We use the word "see" in both ways.

I'll offer you the same answer as given to Frank, above. Blind, illiterate mutes can herd cows. You account seems a bit ableist... We do not simply pa...

recognising it as a cow consists in not running for the gate because it's a bull, keeping a eye out for pats on the surrounding ground, counting how m...

Well, here's the puzzle: did you recognise it, or just think you recognised it? Dejà vu? You have no way to tell. Hence, following a rule has to be pu...

Which brings us again to the things lurking in the background here. Oversimplified, Frege gets mentioned because of his separation of sense and denota...

No. Just that.

Nothing to do with Dennett's "Quining Qualia" A hundred pages. Not bad. Thanks, Professor Dennett.

, Here's a characterisation in grammatical terms: When one says one sees that there is a cow in the field over there, the direct realist says we can b...

it's a worthy piece. There is a discussion of the change in the use of "intention", it's special philosophical uses and what Anscombe sees as the miss...

Indeed. And your attention is directed towards That. Supose we call the smell "S". Discussion might go on around you as to what is causing S, if it is...

, , it remains that Xanthippes' presence was undoubted.

Cast your eye down the list of discussions on the forum home page. While you and I might know better, Cartesian scepticism is unfortunately not uncomm...

Amusing, but it's a qualitative difference like there's a qualitative difference between cubism and method acting. While you might get to watch either...

Well, I've been using Austin's arguments here, despite being well aware of Anscombe's excellent critique. For the purposes of this thread the story is...

I'd kind of hoped that by asking the question, the absurdity of the idea would become apparent. Could the same algorithm answer questions as diverse a...

Well, I was taken. by this line: A curiously accurate characterisation of marriage. It acknowledges the difference between a flatmate and a partner. T...

Yep, his influence, and brilliance, is to be found in the arguments against his views.

Seems Daniel Dennett has moved on. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/books/daniel-dennett-dead.html I see molly already noted this.

I'm relieved.

The cow joke?

To her credit. That line I quoted earlier so succinctly shows the flaw in his approach. I've italicised that last to emphasis it. Seems poignant. Mary...

The "common kind claim", clarified in the SEP article on the problem of perception. When in an internationalist mood, following Anscombe and Davidson,...

...things... When you have an hallucination of a cow, you do not see a cow, because there is no cow to see.

:smile: Yep, a continuing attack on "direct realism", a position that no one actually holds. The trouble here is how indirect realism can produce reli...

Again, you are addressing what you expect to be said, not what has been said.

Balls. If that were so there would not be a philosophical issue. There is no difference in the physics or physiology between direct and indirect descr...

:rofl: I think it is exactly the problem. We do not disagree on anything to do with the physiology or physics hereabouts. Where we disagree is as to t...

There's also the colour red. Folk knew about it well before they knew about wavelengths and three channel colour vision. If there is a equivocation he...