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:up: Syntax as pattern, semantics as what we do with the pattern?

Well, in "Pesasus=x", isn't x some particular x? And a free variable? So why isn't "P" much the same as "Pegasus=" in "Pegasus=x"

I'm not sure how to reconcile these.

OK. I'm not seeing a reason for something so complex, but you might be able to make it work. So "P" is much the same as "Pegasus=" in "Pesasus=x"?

Yep. It's the simple observation that even if we disagree, we can often get on with the doing.

It might be worth adding "... and get the same result". The same behaviours might be seen with very different interpretations - we get a rabbit stew e...

Well, yes. It hadn't occurred to me that folk might think otherwise. Ux(fx) is just fa ^ fb ^ fc... for every item in the domain. And ?x(fx) is just f...

If it is all syntax, what is semantics? And what of intent? There'd be a lot to fill out in explaining behaviour without making use of intent. Even if...

Interesting observation. So it is that becasue the word "gavagai" is so effective that folk have developed something like and expectation that it has ...

I don't think you understood my post. It was about how Tobi's article pointed out that the capitalists might back Trump only so far as he is profitabl...

Not SEP, no.

See PM. Set it out, if it makes sense for you.

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I'll leave you to it. I've found it best not to try to try to teach you logic.

Not so much. It's rather that given a conflict of evidence concerning mental life, whaat process can we employ in order to settle our differences? Not...

Inclusive logic is much the same as free logic, but allowing for an empty domain. In Free Logic or Inclusive Logic, the existential quantifier explici...

A general response. Sure. :wink: Never gonna happen. I had in mind the revelation that some folk do not have an inner monologue, and the lesson that i...

Not just I; free logic is a respectable part of logic. But I am no expert. If Ux(Sx?Bx) then ?x(Sx?Bx) follows, in prop logic, and so presumably also ...

The dawn of a new day. That's pretty close to what is going on here. Reference takes place within a holistic context. Certainly Quine should not be un...

A few notes on treating existence as a predicate. We can of course do this, with some cost. The result is a logic that ranges over things that exist a...

That's an excellent post. well done. I'm stealing ‘The Puerto Rico Effect’ for my own use. I'm not here to be Quine's lawyer (neat expression), either...

Hmm. If someone disagrees with this, if they perhaps insist that their thought of judging that things are so just is judging that things are so... Wha...

Interesting read, especially the comments on capitalism. For the moment supporting Trump seems to be conducive to making a profit. As the rule of law ...

Take out determinate and I don't think Quine would disagree. Sometimes we may be mistaken as to what someone is referring to, but the gavagai fable sh...

There'll be far more personal consequences, too, of course not involving @"Tzeentch". Donald Trump ends security deal for Anthony Fauci, says he'd fee...

Yes, close to it. This is close to the sort of mystical view attributed to Wittgenstein, especially after the Tractatus, where he developed a precise ...

Fine.

It wasn't an objection. Minutes after I posted I re-wrote that as: I am agreeing with what Bunge says here, becasue it seems to me to be much the same...

Nice summation. There views are very, very similar. Quine was also critical of "psychoanalysis, phenomenology, existentialism", and was overtly scient...

Laura Tingle has a piece on the ABC today about long-term results of the recent coronation. If the US produces more gas, then there will be more compe...

Thanks for the update. I hadn't seen this on our news.

I'll repeat this link for folk that may have missed it: Thought Experiment 1: Gavagai Those wanting more might look to the SEP section on the topic in...

Yep. It seems a simple point, but quite a few folk have misunderstood it in various contexts in these forums.

Well, if Joe is consistent, he will agree that water is H2O. Perhaps he will say something like "I know water is dihydrogen monoxide, but it's not H2O...

Form the last few post, it's too late.

There is an x such that x has not been conceived. Clearly a quantification. There is no need to presume that in order to be "attached" to a variable, ...

It's brilliant arguments such as this that convince folk to support Trump.

Well, perhaps not to you. But they are already happening to others.

Just think of all those taxpayer funded business lunches you will be able to enjoy...

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Too many windows? Good thing is you now can go back and edit those duplicates to add more stuff as you think of it. Try to make a habit of looking on ...

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And a suggestion for another issue that might be an election priority... not. Prisons don’t create safer communities, so why is Australia spending bil...

I'm reasonably happy with two sorts of background beliefs. First, those that are constitutive, Searle's status functions - the "counts as". Second, an...

On holism... Quine's student, Davidson, supplemented Quine's holism by introducing charity, while moving form a descriptive to a normative position. C...

Some more about the growth of independents, from ABC News today: Inside the community independents movement targeting key marginal seats at the next f...

Your reply here is much the same as the one I gave to 's question previously.

I agree, but I suspect that this thread will not be the place to progress these ideas - others here appear to be misconstruing Quine's account. We are...

Perhaps they are a folk=psychology term for a reward function being processed in our neural nets... (this is only half facetious)

Again, the parallel between a belief and a reward function is striking.