3017amen

At this point, it seems that you're taking this way too personally. I know it's frustrating. Monder: Ontological God and Omnipotent God. In other word...

I read it twice the first time and I still can't make sense of it. You're trying to posit an ontological God who makes mistakes, and it's just not fol...

Dude, good luck with that :razz:

Pending on the context, the whole concept can take different forms of discourse (cosmology versus metaphysics).. But I think how Hanover & 180 have fr...

Okay let me be less diplomatic an excruciatingly direct. For the reasons I stated, your argument in the OP seems to link logical impossibility (Omnisc...

Bartricks! I'm thinking the term 'mistakes' may need a bit more relevancy. Based on your Omni-3/OP, I don't think it follows that God is capable of ma...

Start a thread and call it Reasons and Causes. Include either philosophy or cognitive science quotes or whatever is appropriate. Just a thought.

I think this also speaks to some of Hanover's arguments specifically referencing one's own truth.: Subjectivity and Philosophy: From the latin “subjec...

I think in large part you answered most of the question. But it is neither always necessary to convince other's of your own truth (Hanover alluded to ...

That's not what we're talking about. Stay out of this grown-up talk Tim :razz: . We're talking about logically fallacies and why people agree or disag...

Does that mean you must show that there are not? If I was going to deny that supposition, well yes. I mean, if one say's 'no that's not true' and offe...

Of course, but it's like committing a logical fallacy to deny the antecedent by offering no justification/explanation for the denial.. One has recipro...

Indeed, it's reciprocity.

Dude, don't attack the process (like Trump)…. you're losing (again), just man-up! Otherwise, tell us you didn't agree to the debate rules?? LOL

180 crashed another debate into the ground. Gosh, it definitely seems so...let's hope for the best, plan for the worst :razz:

My two pennies: After reading 180's lack of responses, I must say, Golly Geee: https://youtu.be/jSpBwt4hFN8 180 tends to use political statements inst...

Yep. It was disappointing to say the least. I asked 180 for a rematch...we'll see. Though I'm not sure there is much bite to his bark :razz: Anyway, I...

Of course. And most likely that could be because of the historical accounts associated with Christianity, as Jesus was recorded in same. Just like man...

Paul Davies writes: Turning to the scientific position on the origin of the universe one can again ask about the evidence that there actually was an o...

3017amen : What 180 is about to say is false. 180 Proof: 3017 has just spoken truly. What other logical question would you like me to answer? Rematch ...

Pardon the pun but I love your premise. Though I think you can have both. You can love an object and appreciate the object for what it is, without an ...

Yes. The a priori argument posits greatest in everything and in everyway possible. It's based on logically necessary truth's. Sure. Absurdity qualifie...

Thanks! I got to take care of some personal things at the moment P. Let me get back to you later K?

Look dude if you want to debate me one on one, then propose something. Otherwise I'm going to have to put you on my ignore list. Now continue with you...

What I meant by the following: "To that end, one thing we know is that those same abstract entities and structures (math), seem to comprise much of se...

Hey TMF! With the holiday weekend upon us I'm going to try my best to get to your supposition (s), but have to ask quickly for a couple qualifiers if ...

Okay any idea of what I should call the new thread/OP? I'm open to any ideas....

Okay I'll explain in a bit...btw, I love psychology.... Probably why I'm more of a continental philosopher!!!

TMF! Thanks for your reply I want to give your thoughtful post the same thoughtful consideration so let me monder it and get back to you!

I would love to clarify, why don't you start a new thread?

180 and I agreed to the following: Title: Atheism is not Logical 1. No word limits per post. 2. No links to previous posts on TPF. Take as much time a...

Stop right there. It was agreed we would have an unlimited amount of time for responses. It doesn't matter now but I cannot let that pass without corr...

Well, generally speaking, that is one so-called tenet of my philosophy or truth as the case may be. More specifically, that overall argument refers to...

I know, I was extremely disappointed too. I had all sorts of arguments lined up, as I hinted at in my opening statement.... .

I love that last quote. Thank you for that inspirational message! Happy 4th!

Thanks Pro! Indeed to all. You know, BTW, I throw them bones and olive branches on occasion just to help but they still don't get it. For instance, if...

God Bless you brother (if I'm allowed to say that).. . .You know, this kinda reminds me of a Keats quote: Truth is beauty, beauty truth. That is all y...

Nice try, but woefully incorrect, hence: "2nd Request: Please provide a coherent logico-deductive premise. So far, your atheism is: I'm an Atheist who...

:up: :up: Good job, No worries, 180 contradicts himself all the time :razz:

Tim, you can ask me anything, though I’m not sure you’re emotionally stable enough to receive the information in a constructive manner :razz: Anyway b...

TMF, I realize that it's your OP (and a good one), if 180 can't answer that question, I think it may mean that his particular belief system is in ques...

Relative to your belief system, please share what would make it sound (if you can) ?

:up: :100:

LOL, tell Banno, there is a there there :razz:

Okay, I think I got it. Kind of reminiscent of certain metaphysical questions concerning the nature of our reality. Meaning, we got here, and we are a...

TMF! Are you saying that self-awareness, in itself, represents a non-physical quality (qualia) that is essential for physical consciousness as we unde...

Hahaha! I tried your 180 proof medication, but that only led to more existential angst :razz: Put in a quarter and try again my friend :joke:

In the paraphrased words of the sages from the Wisdom Books/The Book of Ecclesiastes (since this thread is about Bible philosophy and ironically the e...

I agree, conversely, some Athiest's here are not able to escape their emotional angst, hence: Ever wonder why Atheists like to troll Religious threads...

I agree, there was some interesting discussion that just started about Gnosticism. I hope it continues. But the current state of emotion ironically en...