MindForged

This is just the prototypical Devan thread. "Infinity is this", despite him contradicting the actual standard mathematical definition of infinity. "Ma...

Again, my point is simple to the extent that I think you're purposefully ignoring it. Let's be extremely clear. You're point was this: In response, I ...

I don't think I was talking about you, but the first few posters in this thread. In any case, I think the characterization of "trying to control other...

No, the refutation was against your nonsensical "both sides have made things toxic". Then, you're justification of that was to point at college kids w...

Free speech? Not remotely relevant to anything I said. I was talking about the suggestion that people not communicating is creating a toxic environmen...

Some models satisfy it, others do not quite do so. If I have one rock in a cup, and out another rock in that cup, now I have 2 rocks in that cup. But ...

Stepping on some toes without always saying whose. Sorry in advance. As usual, this is just the typical right wing BS about "PC" stopping "problems fr...

You haven't shown that is the goal of immigration though. You said it was the goal, but outside of people very far to the right it's almost undiscusse...

I'm saying that you haven't made clear if you have a principled stance against social engineering in general. If you do, that would entail a commitmen...

Um, no. Most conservatives don't ask that question period. To the extent that immigration is an issue to them it's to complain about it, not that they...

Me: Unless you are arguing to change the current social engineering that already influences students one way or another I don't take this too seriousl...

No one is asking that outside the right wing because it's a ridiculous question. (I'm not calling you right wing, that's just who actually asks this q...

Probably not. Even writ large, Excluded Middle and Bivalence are always tricky when we see ideas that seem to challenge them. Category errors are a co...

I shouldn't be shocked at the weird reflexiveness in a lot of responses here. Being a reactionary doesn't seem very sensible for anyone. The notion th...

Perhaps the examples I gave weren't apt then, because the U.S. conservatives were not for introducing gay rights or interracial marriage slowly, they ...

The problem is there's just no reason to think so. U.S. conservatism in particular has a long history of endlessly saying that any attempt to change t...

Which bit are you talking about?

Eh, that's a little much, even if it's close to correct. For one, Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems are really only applicable to math formalisms and mo...

they're they same thing.

Well yes, it's (probably) why many do not posit propositions as linguistic. Most don't, I suspect. It's the meaning. They have the same content becaus...

You can communicate the same meaning in different languages. If meaning were bound to a language, this wouldn't be possible.

This is what I was saying when I said whatever answer you pick there's an exception we're making because we're at a limit case where our usual standar...

I didn't rule out God as a possibility, I said a finite past does not lend any more credence to one. Something doesn't come *from* nothing. You can ca...

Carroll was quoting one of the authors of the theorem. You have no idea what the BGV theorem actually says, nor its limitations (namely, that contrary...

It's not an exception. Cause and effect are temporal processes, and more to the point, refers to something about existing things. If there indeed was ...

Why would it lend it weight? All that can actually be derived from a finite past is that there's a first moment of time. There's nothing to really jus...

Check Sean Carroll's debate with William Lane Craig. Carroll shows one of them (Guth I think) saying it's a misuse of the theorem.

OK? Aside from the broad misuse of that theorem, "there was a first moment of time" doesn't lend anymore weight to there being a God or not.

I don't know how this is even supposed to be conceptualized. Time is a crucial aspect of cause and effect for an obvious reason: These terms are defin...

I think the real point is that it's a model that does not require anything god-like to explain any particular aspect of it. Atheism-compatible, in oth...

You're not really making the case for your conclusion though. If propositions were somehow dependent on language, then as I said you would be committe...

I'm confused as to how propositions are dependent on language. The standard characterization of a proposition is as the content of a well-formed sente...

This is exactly what I was talking about. You're not an honest actor. You prove repeatedly that you haven't read up on these topics at all and yet you...

Your reasons thus far have boiled down to their terrible "Climate change is a leftist religion and we can't mitigate it", claims that groups don't exi...

Maybe it's just me but I think it's clear this is just someone puking out bog-standard conservative and libertarian talking points. The poor are bad b...

I pray to the Mother Earth that she with drop a natural disasters on your head while you make an exchange totally divorced from outside influence. Mor...

You claimed, on no basis, that climate changes was a leftist religion. You literally have nothing that even comes close to a fraction of what would be...

I'll never understand how a capitalist of all people could argue that one or a handful of firms controlling everything is good for the economy. It's o...

Good thing we ask the community of climatologists and not you then. You are an expert on nothing relevant here, while those who are your betters and m...

That's a picture, what it represents doesn't exist. ;)

This was all you had to say before so I thought it was very obvious what I was responding to (the rest was more a screed than anything related to this...

People can debate that but it ends up coming across as Meinongianism at a certain point. And that's not totally indefensible (though it may come at so...

Perhaps if you read you'd notice I responded to the things you said, quoting or not. It's not hard to read.

Which I already did in the very post you quoted the beginning of.

You're not making any sense and using snark to bolster it is more funny than compelling. If I imagine Pegasus, that doesn't make Pegasus exist at all....

The process of imagining existing is not equivalent to the content of the imagination existing. Pegasus is not conceived of as an imaginary horse that...

It's impressive that I'd be stuck in that mindset despite being neither an academic philosopher nor have I even read in this topic. Again, consider th...

That's probably fine. How to resolve this logically isn't clear. Maybe it was in another thread, but I've mentioned before that some have suggested ad...

I know you mentioned it but the post doesn't say anything about why one should adopt psychologism especially given everything that mounted against it ...

Because "imagined" is usually understood as implying non-existence. So that statement would be rendered as "Why should we say that non-existent things...