Noble Dust

Maybe the Garbage Plate can bring us all together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkYdgFs_UZY

I agree...

Actually yes, I agree with myself; thanks for the reminder.

Incorrect.

Now you're just circling back to here:

An accumulation of negative thoughts which affect the physical world at critical mass.

No, we discipline children by demonstrating to them what they did wrong and then implementing consequences. By "negative energy", I'm not referring to...

Clarky I love you, but now the tables have turned; rather than SLX killing the mood with real philosophy in the shoutbox, you're now killing the dark ...

To be fair, I just added some negative energy there. Sorry.

Lol, start setting a good guy example and I'll start listening.

Hey, in total good faith, I'll just try one more (probably bad) approach: By celebrating the death of a person who has made the world a worse place, y...

Obviously.

It doesn't make sense within the logic that you use, yes.

What I'm saying is that by celebrating the death of someone who has committed atrocities including death, you are participating in that atrocity throu...

Huh?

:razz:

I'll be totally honest with you by saying I'm not quite sure why I find it distasteful, but if it is a religious "holdover", it's correct in being so....

Does that make you Melania and SLX Trump? :rofl:

I'm not disagreeing with you on how despicable Rumsfeld was. Your celebration of death is what's distasteful and bawdy.

...Yeah, feel free to keep editing the post, but I think it's safe to say you've deflated the shoutbox fun for now...

A name I generally assign to people who celebrate the deaths of other people.

Yes, and Noble is a common Finnish first name. It's just as common in Finnish Ohio to be named Noble Dust as it is to be named Lewd Detritus.

I've learned the hard way that most people who did not grow up with Kropsua tend to find it unappealing. The key is to top it with licentious quantiti...

In Finnish Ohio they call it Kropsua, which I presume, with my strong command of Ohio Finnish, means "strong crop of baby flesh".

It should be there if you hover over the number next to the heart; check your post above.

If dense is a better word, I would amend it to "needlessly dense".

I agree with you.

I assume in good faith you didn't add that addendum you quote here to your post above in order to make it look like I ignored it. :wink: (although for...

No, sorry, I'm just suggesting that your beliefs in general (including your metaphysical beliefs) could potentially influence the experience itself. I...

Right, and so belief (which includes a metaphysic?) seems to be a pre-requisite, at least to me.

So you deliberately write in an obfuscating manner and when asked to clarify, demand to be re-read in order to screen out people who demand better wri...

I'm suggesting that we all do automatically.

I wonder if one's pre-existing metaphysics will influence the subjective experience itself, though. Both, but more so the actual experience.

At the same time though, I'm not sure how this is avoidable. We each have a metaphysical lens through which we view these experiences. I'd be curious ...

I do the same, I'm just exploring what if any evidence there is that they are the same experiences, or related "versions" of the same. This territory ...

That's clearer, yes, with the caveat that it's not quite discussed that way in the OOBE "community", if you will, at least to my understanding. There ...

I'm getting a bit confused about your experiences and stances here; so you have astral projected, but you consider it to not be "out of body", but you...

I'm not sure. Yeah, the metaphysics of this are unclear, and can't really be demonstrated in any substantial way, I don't think. Your perception of yo...

Yeah, my understanding is that astral projection and OOBE are terms for the same experience, but I guess there's not necessarily a way to substantiate...

I'd be curious to hear any details, but no pressure.

I'm not questioning your intelligence or knowledge, but you would have received a D at best in the honors English course I took in college. I don't me...

Was this your experience or someone else's?

Perhaps they put up with it. :wink:

For sure; I've definitely had what I would call meditative experiences while walking.

His techniques mirror some meditation techniques in some ways I think, yes. The difference might be the setting; a sitting position for a lot of medit...

I don't ask for quick reading or spoon feeding, I just prefer clear writing, especially when writing about complex ideas. So now on to the topic of th...

Sure, I think all forms of consciousness that are a departure from everyday waking life are most likely related in some way. I'm just specifically int...

It's possible I misread you, but your distracting use of text formatting and convoluted sentence structures do not do you any favors. So are you sayin...

Your first post just equates naturally occurring OOBEs with psychedelics without an argument as to what makes naturally occurring OOBEs an illusion, o...

By organic I mean not induced by any foreign substance. Can you make an argument for this rather than an assertion?