Frank Apisa

The "fools" in my opinion...are those who insist, "There is at least one god"... ...who insist, "There are no gods"... ...or who insist they know whic...

Wow...really tough to get rid of you and your "I am better than you" attitude, Chris. Okay, in my estimation, that is a factor in your favor. For the ...

Chris...get under control. Don't let comments like this trigger you so. If you want to discuss some of these issues with me...discuss. If you want to ...

I am saying that I (I am just talking about me at this point) do not know the true nature of the REALITY of existence. I do not know what actually exi...

Hey...you screwed up. No big deal. I just thought it was funny, because I disagreed with the sentiment you were attempting to convey. If a person want...

You could simply have written, "I don't think my arguments would hold water against you, Frank." It would have been more concise...and more truthful.

Perhaps significant that you spelled "out loud" incorrectly. Guessing there are no gods is not foolish...but then again, guessing there is at least on...

To anyone thinking! I told you. Because I ask people who use the word as a descriptor...and those are some of the answers I've gotten. More bullshit. ...

Not sure what you mean that I am not sharing the source of my doubts. I have offered them several times...in several different places and threads. I h...

Do you realize that is all bullshit? There is no "fundamental misunderstanding" of atheism...because there is no actual understanding of atheism. It m...

Okay...so you are a "believer." It may be a correct guess. If I were to "hope" on the matter (I seldom do)...it is what I hope is the truth.

It does not...and...it does not. Everything may be just me. I cannot be sure of you...or anyone else. What I see as "you" posting here...may be me doi...

Jesus H. Christ. Anyway... 1) I think, therefore I suppose I am. 2) There is no way in Hell I know that YOU think...or that therefore you are. Where d...

Pontification. Ya gotta get away from it.

This is what I read up above: The point I'm making is there are lots of ways to show there must be a first cause and no ways to show anything could ex...

If you are positing a "first cause"...whatever it happens to be today (we all know it is going to end up being this god you guess exists)...then that ...

YOU CANNOT SHOW A "FIRST CAUSE" WITHOUT SHOWING SOMETHING THAT CAN EXIST WITHOUT ONE. When are you going to finally grok that? Your argument disproves...

BINGO

Okay...just wasn't sure of your point. I went from moderate religious...to zealous religious...to agnostic. Moderate up to age 17 - 18...zealous while...

What do you mean when you say you are an "atheist," Terrapin? Are you expressing a "belief" or guess that there are no gods...or are you simply saying...

What does your response mean, PC? Are you saying you "believe" in the "supernatural?" If so...are you saying that you are inferring knowledge...or is ...

Just a personal observation (which may impact on what you wrote): I think, therefore, in a way, I AM... ...but I truly have no inkling of what I am. A...

Aside from the fact that your thesis makes an assumption (of sorts) that we all agree on what "wrong" is... ...the thought that hit me instantly after...

Are you also saying he is charged with committing journalism? If so, you are incorrect.

That is not what he is charged with.

Hi, Daniel. I do not do "believing." I am content that I do not know if any gods exist...and I am content that I do not know if there are no gods. I a...

Okay...we are in agreement on those matters above. I am no longer going to deal with your hypotheticals. If you want to think negatively of me or my a...

I have said that I would treat the hypothetical you originally offered THE SAME as I would treat the Assange issue. For some reason, you then accused ...

Mariner...if that was addressed to me...I would ask: What the hell does that have to do with anything I have said on the subject of this thread? What ...

I did not say you said I was a hypocrite. I said, "If you want to think I am a hypocrite espousing a "double standard"...not much I can do about it." ...

This is America. The way we arrive at a decision on matters of this sort...is by a trial. That is what I want to see.

If the laws of the countries involved are being followed...I am okay with it. If you want to think I am a hypocrite espousing a "double standard"...no...

There was NO double standard. If the laws of all the countries involved are followed...it is okay with me. What is your problem?

You asked a question. I answered it. Assange has been charged with crimes against the US. If he is sent here by the UK (not a certainty) I want to see...

Yes. If he had instead come back to the US...the situation could be different. But if a court in the US decided his deportation to Ecuador were proper...

Sounds right to me.

I stand by my comment that it is absolutely impossible to ever be certain that there are no gods.

Sorry... "No way I would spend 20 minutes watching a video..."

No way I would spend 20 on a video... ...but MY take on the Assange issue is that he has been charged with crimes against the US... ...and I would lov...

No problemo! It is absolutely impossible to ever be certain there are no gods. And since we do not know for certain there are gods yet...my blind gues...

The notion that there is but one god in the Bible...is absurd. The notion that the Abrahamic "religion" was monotheistic...is absurd. Neither of those...

There shouldn't be an end. "An end" is not what anyone should be aiming for...or they will be disappointed considering the topics. I like Devans...I r...

I would use slightly different wording. I would say: Understanding the true nature of the REALITY of existence could be as unattainable for humans...a...

I do not know... ...AND NEITHER DO YOU. None of us knows. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT NOTHING CAN EXIST IN TIME WITHOUT A FIRST CAUSE. Can you finally gro...

I have answered the question, Devans. Don't get smartassed with me. You are way outmatched there.

I am willing to use almost any definition of a god...so long as it contains a variation on the "creator" god. In other words, a god from which everyth...

Stop thinking of it as in investigation. Better to consider it an obsession, if you must name it. Anyway, I admire your tenacity...even though I see i...

Stop pontificating. Just stop.

So now I must accept the dogmatic proclamation that "time" did not exist before that "first cause" that you are imagining? C'mon! AND...if I am not ab...

YOUR FIRST CAUSE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT CAN EXIST WITHOUT A PRIOR CAUSE...WHICH IS WHAT YOU PROBABLY MEANT TO SAY. If YOUR "first cause" can ...