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As this is almost a direct argument, I would take issue with your use of "eternal", "timeless", "god" and "do things", but as I am probably missing so...

Cool. I only took a couple of philosophy courses in college, and they did not get into showing your work. Can you give me a quick example from this th...

Too much for me? Who said that? Wasn't it fairly obvious that I understood it? Maybe not? It is just garbage writing. What percent of the English spea...

Nice. I thought you lucked into all that martial stuff. Oh, and I thought it made perfect sense. It is just that figurative language and the grammar o...

Well upon re-reading, I don't think my questions are that helpful either. My bad. I will sort of re-phrase at the end of this post. If it is not pedan...

Just a hunch. You seemed to be talking about immorality as something we can eliminate vs a subjective opinion. Being perfectly moral sounds like enlig...

I hear all that. But I am not convinced that most people in this thread are even understanding what we are getting at...I certainly am not understandi...

Hahaha. Nicely done again. Imagine my dismay Having smashed the rhymes And entered the light of day Just to spend my time Listening to people rhyme aw...

We are humans...we are ALL consistently committing immoral acts FROM SOME VIEWPOINT. Even my own personal morality is impossible to live up to. If mor...

Still a meat eater. ALL of my favorite foods/meals include meat. So mostly just wallowing in my hypocrisy similar to you. But for some reason I don't ...

I agree with the throat slit part, I would dislike the 48 seconds of bleeding out. But the rest I am fine with. If y'all want to chew on my fat once I...

I find your lack of faith disturbing. You don't know the power of the Dark Side. :smile: @"Sunnyside" Poeticuniverse is certainly talented...unfortuna...

Sorry for labeling you a vague communicator in that other thread. You can be (can't we all), but this is just one of many examples where you are clear...

Entirely agreed. I do believe in prerequisites :smile: If a person tries to learn calculus before addition and subtraction, they are going to have a l...

Fair enough, I was just trying to use 'complicated language' to summarize all of the different language issues that have popped up in this thread. mak...

Agreed. I would not expect to understand that paper...but seriously, what realm do you exist in where that is part of 'most' communications? So just s...

Most of the threads on THIS website, a philosophy forum, do not require understanding of any of the difficulties you have mentioned above. A philosoph...

I asked several direct questions that I think would have shed more light on the situation, but fine, let's try it this way: pure pedantic garbage...ri...

Huh? I thought the thread was 'obfuscatory discourse'? Isn't vocabulary the biggest obfuscatator? I thought you were referring to the people here that...

Well, I am still impressed. You still had to make up all that BS for the anagrams to make your point..

Sounds like you acknowledge there are times when pedantic language is a problem? Why bother with the lay writing? Huh? I don't measure intelligence ba...

Nicely done :smile: Did you come up with that on the spot, or have you used it before? How long did it take to originate? It would have taken me hours...

Agreed, I think that is what @"StreetlightX" was pointing out anyway. And you are probably right that @"rlclauer" was well aware of what he was doing ...

Logically...isn't there no more reason for an eternal god as there is for one that just popped into being? If this paragraph was supposed to provide t...

Haha, well once I am in the picture, it is only a matter of time. Now that I am starting to understand you (I think?), I think I am on board. You are ...

As I almost always agree with, or learn from, your posts, let me disagree and see if I can learn something. Does the speaker have any responsibility i...

Yup. Unquestionably a problem. It is a bit of a problem here, but I find it far worse in the average document published by a college professor. Around...

First, I am interested in all this, but I want to get right to the point. Feel free to call me stupid, but please don't get offended and stop arguing ...

As that is CLEARLY the thrust of your argument, the OP seems a bit disingenuous? The whole thing just seems designed to make fun of atheists who are i...

Please be patient with me. I struggle to understand you. I will try to restate in words I understand... So you are saying one necessary description of...

Hmmm, based on the thread title, I thought "consensus" was the whole point of this thread. After Pattern-chaser's responses, I had to re-read and I am...

Nope. Just attempting to separate 'god' from everything else THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A NAME FOR. Otherwise, you get any powerful or knowledgeable entity ...

Haha, oops, I missed the UN part of unhelpful. Dang, and that is just about the ONLY part I can understand. Everything else seems to be people's feeli...

This is certainly true, but the word "god" must imply something that words like "nature", "universe", "everything", etc do not capture. If we are TRYI...

I don't know Cantor, but isn't this just a matter of abstract reasoning, or not? In the abstract, of course any segment is infinitely divisible. Why w...

I can't see where the confusion came from, haha. Still sounds like a sarcastic atheist to me.

As a history student, I can't help but be reminded of "the secret knowledge of the ancients" and those claims are almost always proved false...unless ...

Hahaha, fair enough. Have we found a better way of deciding how much 'x' and 'y' we should produce? Pure capitalism is a nonsense fantasy (or a dystop...

Agreed. But you also just pointed out that most humans can't really do it either. An interesting take. Is the stance basically questioning how 'creati...

Actually, less cliquey, but equally selfish :grin: You will notice that almost every response in the thread (and many other threads) has a blue name i...

Well if you agree with both of these statements then our differences are not all that important :grin: I think I need to explain what I meant by 'arti...

Any chance you have seen the South Park episodes about Imagination Land? These lines remind me of that. When you say "develop the cognitive capacity" ...

That makes more sense. I was rather shocked that a poet had written that much non-poetry. He is certainly funny and has a way with words, but he also ...

This gets to my point. If I take a picture of those clouds and frame then it is art no question, right? (your next paragraph agrees) When did it becom...

Indeed. Even worse is the new business idea that NO PROFIT IS REQUIRED. The plan is to just lose a few million every year but sell billions worth of s...

Interesting. When I said it, I thought it was obvious...upon reading your question, I immediately began to doubt it. Let's see if i can justify the cl...

As I read the end, I was thinking "for whom the bell tolls" is one of the only phrases I find aesthetically pleasing. Now I know it wasn't invented by...

So I have heard that "no man is an island" phrase hundreds of times. I just assumed it was some idiom. Thanks for the cultural learnin'. So ants and f...

Hey Brett, you seem pretty informed when it comes to art (I enjoyed arguing with you last time - and I am not trying to say you are not informed on ot...

Ok, but in the meantime...what do we call the original piece of music created by an unthinking machine? Is the programmer the artist? Or is the piece ...