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That's a bit odd. So if I pick your pocket and take your wallet, your credit card is mine, as long as I can keep control of it? That solves the proble...

:rofl: The continuity of imaginary beings can be imagined to be terribly important.

After that bravura performance with the glass of water, I'd be looking forward to seeing the Great Orangery walk and chew gum at the same time, except...

My next door neighbour has been separated from her breasts. My wife has been separated from her womb. A woman's a woman for aye that. The surgeon who ...

Yes ultimately you are right, the distinction breaks down, the self dissolves and we belong to each other. But that's rather a long way from shooting ...

If you do a thought experiment about thinking, is it a real experiment?

Thing is, this isn't true. If I donate a kidney, or some blood, then whatever rights I may have had cease forthwith, and are transferred to whoever th...

Yes I understand. I point out though what this entails philosophically. A relation requires a division. My relation to my armchair is that I'm sitting...

Oh yeah. Good call. Un-molded plastic is just a useless blob.

What is your family like? What is the most important thing in your life? What sort of culture are you part of? Who governs you? I don't know how anyon...

Well not necessarily. Your argument seems to be that everything must belong to an individual or to society. Whereas I deny that. Being and having are ...

My favourite topic, though I haven't read Baggni. But it looks as though you are taking elements of rather different understandings there. As to Hume,...

If virtue was rewarded and vice punished it would be merest common sense to be virtuous. And that would make virtue and selfishness the same. Of cours...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000kbk6 If you can, do. If you can't, complain about discrimination. A nostalgia fest for us ancients. Mr Baldwin is...

There is an argument, to which I personally do not subscribe, that all sexual relations are objectifications. That is, the best that can be hoped for ...

More an example of objectification than a discussion. Women (or bits thereof) as goods? A meat market.

Unconditional surrender.

Is the experience not 'having one's existence invalidated'? (Man repeats what she just said so it sounds more important.)

No.

Well women spend a lot of time trying to arouse the interest of men, who generally prefer to get drunk and watch football, or play with their train-se...

It doesn't add up that being attractive is belittling oneself.

All else being equal, it is being revealed that the woman in question wants to look attractive to one or more men. Rather like when a man wears a suit...

Rabble armies are like cluster bombs; they tend to result in a certain amount of collateral damage. Regrettable but sometimes necessary.

Nothing humble about that opinion. Do you apply it to yourself? Do you objectify yourself whenever you try and attract a sexual partner? Or are you ju...

Are you saying that a woman who wants sex wants to be objectified? That a woman who wants to excite a man wants to be treated as a sex object?

What are they dressing up as that they've spent time and effort rejecting? ( He asks, pretending for no good reason that women always dress the same w...

You speak for women do you?

Do you think it is a matter of fact, and not a matter of perception in relation to a culture? How extraordinary it seems to me that you should suggest...

There is an etiquette to being an artists' model. One undresses behind a screen, because as has been alluded to, it is the tease of the strip not the ...

I think, reading this thread, it is apparent that people honestly take up positions that they honestly believe are not racist but which have prejudici...

It's a bit off topic posting my local shit here, but we Brits really want to show our solidarity with all you American racists at this difficult time.

Liverpool was at the centre of the slave trade, and the University has not been slow in showing its hypocrisy in on one side claiming to support BLM, ...

We Brits thought of it first. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Medal%2C_order_%28AM_2018.63.1-2%29.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/...

Perhaps your body owns you.

Well you can't legally or ethically spray your hydrogen cyanide round the shopping mall either. But you might get away with walking the dog there. As ...

It's like politics; necessarily everyone does it, but most of you are entirely wrong.

Sounds like the invisible hand, whereby greedy selfish people do what we want them to do in order to enrich themselves.

Yes, and lots. Here are some my pals and some of their ideas... Maria Montessori. John Holt. Ivan Illich. Paulo Friere. Jiddu Krishnamurti. Robert Pir...

I think they've got it in the objectification of women thread.

A particularly stupid and offensive comment. As it happens, I own my own house and am doing quite nicely from this radically unjust system. It's somet...

I am not all that interested in cataloguing the details of property law through history and across geography. I think we know that slavery is not a re...

I presume, that to objectify is to disregard or discount the subjectivity of another. Consider, therefore how men might be objectified by each other. ...

Right decision, but a shame.

That is a non-sequitur of truly epic foolishness. A sign of desperation. I'm going to end this conversation here because either I am completely wastin...

That's very odd, actually. We have only been through a little of the history, and surely you know it as well as I do, but the whole history is littere...

No, I'm civilised. Beat the shit out of him.

I don't mind really, but you've done it twice in this thread alone. It's a really bad habit.

You didn't mean to put words into my mouth and then disagree with them, but that is what you did. "The way you summarised it", was prejudicial to me. ...

Nor do I. Try and disagree with what I say rather than your guilty conscience. I did not call it primitive, and I did not call it antiquated. Your pre...

Nor do I. They are completely opposed in many many ways. And that is why the result of the honour ethic is completely different. I am saying that the ...