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I jumped in because too often Aristotle is viewed through the eyes of Aquinas. I think this is a mistake.What Aristotle leaves open and unanswered Aqu...

The term essence (essentia) was a Latin invention used to translate Aristotle's Greek ousia. Cicero is credited with inventing the term, from the Lati...

Formal concepts are pseudo-concepts. 'Object' is a pseudo-concept because it says nothing about what is the case, not because it makes up the substanc...

Mathematical equations are pseudo-proposiitons , but this does not mean the equation is a concept, either proper or formal. 1+1=2 is not concept, it i...

What falls under a formal concept is not another formal concept. (4.126) The sign '3' signifies a number, not the concept 'number'. '3' falls under th...

See the statement I put in bold: (4.12721) If I say: "There are a number of horses" that is expressed by the variable x. This does not tell us how man...

See 4.12721. The concept of a number is a formal concept. Particular numbers are not. They fall under the concept of a number.

If, as Russell stipulates, x is a book, then there are no formal concepts in "T(x)". I don't know what () on the table means. Wittgenstein is doing pr...

. The properties of objects in logical space are formal, internal, necessary properties. Weight, color and taste are not necessary properties. 'Fact' ...

An unhappy apple is an illogical proposition not an illogical object. An apple on the table or inside the sun is not a combination of objects it is a ...

The answer to the title question is - yes ... and no. If we wish to understand how the Hebrew Bible ("Old Testament" is itself of a misconception) ans...

At 4.126 Wittgenstein introduces the term "formal concepts". He distinguishes formal concepts from concepts proper.‘Book’ is a proper concept. It make...

There are no ‘logical objects’ (4.441) As part of a propositional analysis apples and tables can function as simples. Whether they do does not depend ...

What conclusions were drawn from the evidence in the 2016 election? How much more reliable is the evidence today? What do the statistics show about th...

Are you saying that somehow the fact plays some role in whether or not x and y do combine? Or that if and when they combine the result is a fact?

I take him to be saying that combining with others is what it is to be an object, and that there is no object that cannot combine with any other objec...

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Your step back is a step forward. We are in agreement. As you go on to say, objects contain the possibility of arranging into facts, but as stated it ...

I am not a blind adherent of Wittgenstein's or anyone else. I disagree with much of what he says about philosophy in both his earlier and later works....

I was going to say the same thing.

The problem is not that Wittgenstein muddles things, you do. A state of affairs is a fact. Given that the stated goal of the text is to draw the limit...

To the contrary: (2.014) Metaphysics deals with the arche, the source or origin of things and what is first or primary. His view, like all others, is ...

It is the substance of the world not the facts in the world that prevents this: (2.0211)

Your claim was that about his removal of relations and properties from his ontology. If ontology is about what exists, and properties and relations ar...

They do not. You have got it backwards. The objects are self-determining. The facts are the result of their combining as they do. He says quite a few ...

Objects make up the substance of the world. Do you agree? If so what do you think this means? Objects are necessary. Facts are contingent. Do you agre...

It is not. An object is not a logical marker or a name. As I mentioned in a prior post: Facts are contingent. It is not necessary that these elementar...

(6.13) Logic is transcendental in the Kantian sense of a condition for the possibility of a world. A world is made possible by the formal properties a...

He doesn't. Do objects count as particulars? If a particular is something that can only exist in one place at one time then objects are not particular...

Simple or elementary objects, which are what this thread is about, are not objects in the world. I included a link to this thread thinking you might r...

See this discussion.

If we must infer what the form is then it is hidden by the clothing. Some people wear baggy clothing to hide what is underneath. What they think there...

There is another faction, those more aligned with the Claremont Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and Hillsdale College. They certainly are not uned...

As he says in the preface, language is the expression of thought. At 4.002 he says: (Emphasis added.) From the outward form, how the thought is expres...

I am glad you took my remarks in the spirit in which they were intended. Of course, down the road I might see the need to revise my views. It would no...

Substance is logical form. The form of reality. (2.18) Objects are its content. (2.023) This might make more sense in my next post.

Good point. Objects are not treated as things to be known. To the extent there is knowledge of the world it comes from science not logic.

Which classical conception? Certainly not Aristotle,

Objects make up the substance of the world. (2.021) It is obvious that an imagined world, however different it may be from the real one, must have som...

The word 'object' refer to the object, but an object is not a word. One of Wittgenstein's main concern was clarity. (4.112) Perhaps he assumed that th...

He complicates this by using the term 'object' in both cases without always making the distinction clear.

I will leave them to stick together. By own approach is to assume that when an important philosopher says something that seems wrong to begin with the...

I don't think so. As I understand it, or perhaps misunderstand it, there are no simple physical entities or objects. Every physical object is complex....

My prior response may have been more than you were looking for. More briefly: We do not have knowledge of such things as the gods and the arche or ori...

Another fine example of you doing nothing with words. Post hoc ergo propter hoc

There is a difference between what an object is, which Wittgenstein does address, and the identification of an object. This is about the former. As wi...

Isn't it to be assumed that doing good means doing something that will have actual benefit in the world? If that is the case, then what you do in a si...

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Well then, I will leave it there.

I would not put facts and objects under the heading of Thought. They are independent of thought. I would put them under Reality. The following stateme...