Isaac

That's not the standard definition of infinity and you've had as much explained to you a hundred times. You've presented your argument about what you ...

You missed the most important premise. 0. Assume your own idiosyncratic definition of 'infinite', with which virtually no-one here seems to agree. Onc...

Wouldn't dream of it! .

I'm quietly pleased I shocked you! It would certainly be good to co-exist as your persistence compliments my interests. There's no better check of how...

I was searching for that exact reference. Thanks.

I get what you're saying, I think we just have a different focus and I'm willing to concede that mine might not be right for this thread. I'm a fairly...

They absolutely did have a choice. There's tons of archive evidence of ordinary people willingly colluding in order to obtain Jewish property.

Exactly. So what use is the universality of proscription against 'murder' if the meaning of 'murder' is just redefined to suit whatever objective soci...

The example remains about meta-ethics. There is an argument in moral realism for various forms of ethical naturalism such as these. They are still met...

Of course, my mistake. How foolish of me!

Yes, all of which I have raised a challenge to, all of which you have ignored. People absolutely and evidently do not all agree that murder is wrong a...

Here's an idea. Maybe it's you that's wrong. Has that possibility even crossed your mind? No they're not. No it doesn't. Wrong. No it isn't. Well isn'...

You're talking like a religious zealot. You keep repeating this belief without any justification. What are these big central moral issues about which ...

Yes, me too. Again, this is kind of the point I'm trying to make here. If (not an if I would agree with) one were to say "morality" just is the rules ...

I completely agree. It's what is most fundamental to me about this discussion. What I'm trying to do is to demonstrate that this continues to be true ...

Fair enough. I'd just say it's not a correct move, but maybe I'm more careless in my speech than I should be.

So a move which is against the rules of chess, whilst playing chess would be what? What term would be the one you'd prefer to hear? That move is...

I agree entirely with your successful refutation. Where I'm at odds is that if he had come back and said "in a racist society, racidm is morally" righ...

So how do you treat the use of the term "correct" when applied to a move in chess? Is it a misuse of the word for you? Because the way i see it, the m...

This is where I disagree with you (and I have a feeling disagreeing with you is going to be a lot more fruitful than disagreeing with my previous inte...

Well, yes. As usual he'd be disagreeing with the usual straw man of relativism, that we all think murder is OK. Or a rather boring semantic argument a...

Yeah, that's what I wasn't quite sure about from Janus's latest posts. Tim and the ultra-rationalists definitely are trying to say that, but arguing a...

Yes, absolutely. But then what is to stop someone from saying that a collection of such things (things everyone thinks is wrong) is what we call "wron...

What I'm hoping to show by this is that there are no objective facts of the matter even by Janus' definition of objective. I'm not particularly precio...

It's called Demand Sharing. It was first identified by Les Hiatt among the Arnhemland Aborigines, but it's since been recognised quite widely among hu...

But this is not a moral stance. Loads of people dislike broccoli, yet still eat it because they want to be healthy. Dislikes and behavioural proscript...

No, I've no idea which of his bare assertions he's erroneously describing as an argument. I've had enough of this nonsense. I'm not wasting any more t...

Interesting that you should ask, as coincidentally I have been considering whether to write anything more myself. Basically, my reasons are; I'm not r...

Yes, by and large a virtue ethicist. I think that large decisions such as those made by governments and corporations, should probably be made on utili...

But why did you write that then? Why write a different thing that has nothing to do with the post you're responding to? Well then the answer to your q...

As above. I see moral rules as emerging dynamically from hundreds of independent social interactions between individuals, many of whom want different ...

I don't agree with that premise, but I think, again, we do not want to get too sidetracked. Suffice to say I'm something of a Rousseauean when it come...

Yes, but now I've got your quote inside my quote... Too meta! Anyway It's hard to fit my world view into the language of your deontology. I talk about...

What original philosophical insights, wherever did you find them! Best not let the opposition get a hold of such damning arguments as those, they'd ha...

Yes. Half the arguments in this thread could be summed up as "if we presume moral universals, then morality must be universal". The issue at stake is ...

Struggling to see what any of this has to do with morality, but my best attempt at piecing together your line of argument is to something like - Moral...

Did you read the article?

What about "deeply flawed" plays would be still worth studying in school?

Just for those elitists trying to paint anyone who doesn't think Shakespeare is objectively brilliant as uneducated, or inexperienced in the 'great ba...

I see what you're saying, but think you're fixing something which isn't broken. I don't think there is any evidence at all that people need guidance r...

First of all, you've made a very important change to what I actually said which makes all the difference. I said "I shall murder whomever I please" an...

Well, I agree with the first part. I'm not sure where you're getting your data from to support the second part, but that's probably a whole other disc...

So morality is something more than sticking to a rule, or are you saying here, as below that one determines what is a moral action by reference to its...

Yeah, I was more thinking about how we'd know in the other case that they didn't want to control people, in order to judge it harmless, but I presume ...

How do you propose an army work? You think opposing Hitler with military force was not rational, because a lot of people got killed?

Well I thought so, but that point seemed to have been dismissed (or perhaps just lost) it was the point I made in my first post (I think) that this th...

Ah, my mistake. I wasn't clear enough. I meant 'extent' as in the extent to which some action inexorably leads to the restrictions you speak about. De...

You realise you have just presented two conditionals and a set relation argument. Two arguments in logic. Did you first prove that logic was qualified...

Well yes... The entire rest of the debate. Your response to the fact that we do not say that 'killing' is wrong. We'll start there. Why do you think, ...

OK, so can you pin down the 'extent', or is it just a gut feeling? People engaging in racist language, in my opinion, want to control others to an una...