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i dont know about philosophy or whether russia's hand was forced, but i believe people want this war over quick so that they return to their normal li...

Hey, when a country invades another, u would expect that common people would support the defending country and chastise the invading one. This doesnt ...

sorry tldr, so did we reach a conclusion and consesus as to what metaphysics is?

A mathematician, a statistician and a fool observe a roulette table where black has come 20 times in a row, and think about betting. The mathematician...

What good is it to lose oneself in pointless arguments? I guess it helps pass the time, avoid real problems, before you die.

Wow, these topics regarding philosophy - metaphilosophy - keep springing up like mushrooms, huh, maybe it's this time of the season. On topic now, phi...

Moreover, if all morality is grounded on human flourishing, and someone does not contribute to this 'flourishing', then this means and implies that th...

What you describe here might well be "eugenics gone wrong". But since you rely on science for flourishing and consequently morality, you must rely on ...

Hasnt science already settled the matter for human flourishing, in terms of eugenics and population control? Eugenics ensures that only the healthiest...

With philosophical topics like this one, i dont see how anyone can flourish, well not even blossom! :yum:

When we say that someone is biased (about something), we also mean that they are wrong, right? Or can a biased person somehow be right? Thing is that ...

Can something that is objective be, at the same time, incorrect? Is there such thing as "without bias"?

i told you that by objectively, i mean descriptive, and so to describe objectively i take it to mean describe descriptively :joke: Describe is just de...

:grin: I dont think we can describe anything accurately, but even if we did, we would be talking about a correct/right description, and not a correct/...

Objectivity doesnt have to do with right or wrong, it just means descriptive.

Hard really to say that philosophy has made any real progress, since in the current phield of quantum mechanics, there are all these bunch of interpre...

Make TPF great (again) :cry:

But yet another definition of philosophy: the discipline which makes idiots and fools seem like brilliant, most probaly that is why it was invented. I...

Philosophy is the belief system that takes it for granted that you can reason your way through everything.

If Logic is what makes languages and speech possible (transcendental), then speaking any language would show and reflect it (Logic). This is what I th...

Perhaps, but it would be interesting to examine this, I think, by comparing the Tractatus to the PI on this particular issue. Regretfully, I don't hav...

Why did you translate "propositions show the logical form of reality" into "logic shows the form of reality", it's not the same. But anyway, I doubt t...

Regardless who or what they are, I just wanted to say that one way of imposing your worldview, would be via language, a most effective method, the rea...

The coherence is not logical?? What then? The relations between members of the family, are they internal or external? According to Wittgenstein, "prop...

Here today, gone tomorrow. :cry:

But you can see for example our age of "political correctness", what these guys and gals are trying to do, they are trying to enforce correct use of l...

I don't understand what you mean by 'coherence' as that is applied to language. But anyway, what I am saying is this: it seems to me that Wittgenstein...

Cool! :cool: So what do you proscribe then?

My purpose here is to show you guys that you would philosophize a lot better if your comments were accompanied with songs.

I am not talking about any proscriptions. Take for example the "infinitive". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitive When did it appear, when did it ...

True, ordinary language embodies a lot of history, all of humanity's history actually. But if you link logic to language as Wittgenstein does, then th...

So, another radical approach to Logic in the Tractatus was that it doesn't say anything about the world: logical propositions, or propositions of logi...

Anyways, Wittgenstein believed and said that his work had been grossly misinterpreted. We can find this in various parts: 1. In the prologue made for ...

Thanks, you finally gave me something, something I could work with I mean. From here: https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/locke1690book3.pdf ...

Philosophy, as it stands, eats of any leftovers that science might throw at it. Thus the king, or rather the queen, is naked, believing to be in the d...

Is this the thread where we are dropping shit to philosophers and philosophy? I was getting ready to dump a good one, but somehow lost interest! :blus...

Yer suggestions were duly noted, but were subsequently rejected. Reason: insufficient information. Similar is not what I want, I am after same. Everyt...

They seem like nice people.

:razz: I am sorry, I didn't know u were in serious business, or else I wouldn't have imposed! But everyone needs a break, once in a while. Maybe you'l...

Well maybe it's not, but vital to really understanding the Tractatus. After all, it seems like a combination of epistemology and a proposition that ha...

The motto, yes. What does Fann say about it? What? Nothing? Why is that, you think?

No, before that, I was talking about the motto.

The page that starts with the title, "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus", and then continues with "DEDICATED".

You left out the first page of the Tractatus, the most important part.

I dunno why, I guess this was his way. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vZWS7Xy-5BE/maxresdefault.jpg

Ah, you make me search now. Wasn't it you that said those things: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/394275 And so Wittgenstein says th...

I am not sure, but most probably you are thinking of a state-of-affairs as a snapsnot of the world, like for example a picture/snapshot we capture wit...

Right! The question here is whether you are into dialogue, if you even know what this means, or into monologuing. I can tell ya, polyloguing is the be...

Ah to a particular reader you mean? And not to all readers? This would be easier, I guess.

Let me just say here that while one can see the objects of the Tractatus and their forms, either as the fixed platonic forms or ideas in which every o...