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I mostly agree with you. I think it's a failure as a theory of consciousness, but it might be a very good theory of identity. I think identity admits ...

Consciousness feels container like, it feels still and relatively unmoving (or sometimes does) while things happen in it, yet still connected to those...

It doesn't necessarily require it, but it is very hard to think of a non-gradual, instant change in a system that could plausibly be associated with t...

We've gone over this before. I don't think you are trolling, so I'll just make the same point. There are different senses of 'consciousness' which you...

Yes, that's the broad picture.

There are a number of different motivations depending on the panpsychist, I think. Some panpsychists take a very conceptual approach think that it imp...

Not yet! I wish there were some challenges to my confusions that I could understand. Hence my question to you. Could you please have a go at answering...

Apo, you don't understand the concept of reduction as used in philosophy, and you do not acknowledge different types of panpsychism. What are you doin...

Well, I tried. Please would you? I mean, it's not hard. I asked it in such a way as you could say 'yes' or 'no'. So I tried to make it as easy as poss...

Apo, I don't speak for all panpsychists. It's not a single position. There are many types, with different theoretical justifications. For myself, I as...

I answered all your questions Apo! All I ask is that you answer one of mine. It's polite! Humour me.

It can do, but it can also depict it as primarily a property of substance, and then, a fortiori, derivatively, of modifications of that substance as w...

Yes, I think you are exactly right. "Emergentism" is a much clearer and less ambiguous word than "physicalism" or "materialism" or even "naturalism", ...

OK, thanks. I still don't really understand though, sorry. I'm OK with reducing phenomena to more basic concepts where we can. But I don't regard cons...

I think that's quite a good summary.

Apo, you are behaving very oddly. I didn't even know you'd asked me. You still haven't, but I presume you intended to. I'll answer. My own view is tha...

I don't know! You introduced the term and said panpsychism was reductionist. I'm just trying to understand what you mean! There's lots of different co...

@"apokrisis" It's a really simple question.

I see, and that's what you're asserting of panpsychists, that panpsychists think consciousness is a complex phenomenon, fully explained in terms of fu...

That's what I think, yes. Not all panpsychists think that though. I don't understand what you mean, or what that's got to do with panpsychism. Panpsyc...

Not all panpsychists think that consciousness is fundamental. I do though. All that is necessary for panpsychism is that consciousness is present some...

Could you explain the reduction? Reduction normally involves explaining one thing completely in terms of things other than it. So a is reduced to x, y...

That's a really clear explanation. I don't have the knowledge to know if you've got it right or not, but it's very nicely set out.

Some atheists challenge some theists from time to time to justify their beliefs. On a philosophy forum that is entirely appropriate and acceptable. It...

Eh? Atheirsm is the view that there are no gods. What has it got to do with free speech? It's nothing to do with politics, it's not a political moveme...

I rather like that conception of soul. Intelligible without departing massively from the already existing concept, such as it is.

We are a vile bunch of assholes. Actually you're not. You're quite nice.

Oh that's a shame. Spunky lad. Liked him.

Where's Garrett gone? Is he ok? @"Garret Travers" I can't summon him. Oh, maybe I can. The name didn't come up as an automatic option.

Recipe for a functionalist theory of consciousness: 1) Specify the concept of consciousness your theory is a theory of. It is important to separate th...

Yes that's pretty much it

Because everything else in the universe is unconscious, according to the emergentist.

It's off topic Apo. If you want, start another thread entitled 'Why bert1 is a cunt' and you can ask me all the questions you want and I'll try to ans...

Thanks that looks interesting. I was vaguely hoping you understood Apo's position so you could explain it to me, but It's a big ask.

Are we incapable of having a conversation Apo?

I also asked you for a relatively theory-free definition, but you ignored that question as well.

This isn't about me. Look at the title of the thread. I don't feel embarrassed! No doubt I'm wrong in all kinds of ways, but we can talk about that an...

Roughly interchangeable, although it's not hard to imagine times when people want to make distinctions and to specify usage. Just have to pay attentio...

Apo, you asked me a lot of questions but didn't answer mine. I'm happy to discuss panpsychism in another thread. Your post is blusterous and insubstan...

I don't think it does, but that's not because I think the complexity is relevant, it's because I'm a panpsychist. I'm trying to understand the positio...

It's a question to ask of any kind of functionalism I think. Although previously Apo has said he isn't a functionalist, but maybe that's just a termin...

That's all great, but why can't all that happen in the dark? I'd be happy with your account if you didn't market it as an explanation for consciousnes...

@"apokrisis" The mind does make causal sense to me. I don't feel bogged down except when I try to make sense of various emergentist accounts, such as ...

@"apokrisis" Can you offer a relatively theory-free definition of 'consciousness', that picks out what theories of consciousness are theories of?

Indeed, but life, at least since biologists got hold of the concept, is defined functionally. Consciousness is not defined in functional terms, at lea...

what is the hard problem?

Yup. That's a good Dennett quote. A recent exchange with 180 shocked me a bit as it demonstrated, or appeared to demonstrate, that he actually lacked ...

I'll look at the global workspace theory more as that is what Garrett seems to be drawn to, and I like the idea of a space, as consciouness seems some...