Tzeentch

Aren't you suggesting individuals should be pressured out of exercising their right to bodily integrity?

Those pesky individual rights. If only we could do away with those, the world would surely be a better place.

Normal, healthy people being framed as a threat to safety for exercising their right to bodily integrity is a scary trend.

I'm leaning towards the enforcement of negative conditions on others being always unjust. I'd like to be persuaded otherwise, but it seems any attempt...

So, the term you shared "pornification", has to do with how sex pervades in modern culture. That process has, in my eyes, way more to do with the way ...

I'd assume that our affinity with multiplying has deep roots in our instincts. We're initially programmed to prolong the species. Likewise our dislike...

There really isn't a way around the fact that people are born involuntarily, and the moment one tries to justify it, one inevitably enters a slippery ...

I don't think porn is the cause of "pornification". I think marketing is.

In western societies, there exists a subgroup of men who are, at least in 'popular culture', considered inferior or even worthless (implicitly, but al...

I don't see why those who deem themselves vulnerable cannot isolate themselves, or have the government facilitate such isolation on a voluntary basis....

I do not think this reaction is so strange. After all, once freedoms are lost, one also becomes painfully aware that it is not within their own power ...

I don't think antinatalism is about "getting something". One can come to moral conclusions that one does not like, but still recognize them as being t...

To connect two experiences together and figure out what they mean, one has to rely on reason to tell the relation between the two. Eating sugar brings...

Some thoughts: I don't think there is a duty to reduce suffering. That would seem like quite a large burden for an individual to bear. Perhaps what yo...

And we've talked about how these experiences alone are too easy to fool to serve as a guide.

Ok, but how does this make a case for hedonism?

I think we can use reasoning alone to come to conclusions about what is good and bad, without having to experience it first-hand. I think we do this a...

I disagree. I think such experiences and reasoning can tell us many things that are both true and good for ourselves.

Yes and no. Sensory experiences combined with our reasoning faculty, where the latter can provide us with an understanding the sensory experiences can...

Hopefully one wisens up to this fact as they grow up, through their experiences and gathered knowledge.

We don't, which is why I think the senses are a bad guide for moral conduct in the way hedonism seems to prescribe.

What I am trying to point out is that someone's subjective idea of pleasure and pain can vary greatly over time. Eating all that sugar may feel good i...

I can for the most part agree with this idea of moral conduct, however I do not think that those things you named are, in the context of morality, nec...

Moral conduct, starting with me, an individual.

With reason, I suppose. The senses will simply have to follow. The pleasure/pain system in our bodies is so deceptive, I don't think it can serve as a...

My view: Something that feels good can be immoral, and something that feels bad can be moral. So whether something feels good or bad does not seem to ...

What is one?

Sticks, fingers, luxury yachts. They don't answer the question of what is one.

I = ?

Joe Frazier famously went on record, long after his rivalry with Muhammad Ali ended, and asked "Who really won that fight?"

Sounds like that should prompt exactly the kind of prior thinking required for making such a decision. If one is unwilling to make such sacrifices for...

Perpetuating the human race, I suppose. Though, I would not believe anyone who proclaimed to care enough about the human race as a whole to procreate ...

It's a well-known phenomenon in psychology that people who are treated like children, start acting like children. And in the case of citizens and gove...

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An understanding of that personal desire. But insight into one's own psyche doesn't seem to come naturally to most.

A personal desire for having children seems to be a far greater drive than the well-being of said children. No matter how dire the living conditions, ...

A case can be made for the use of force being just in the case of self-defense, but other than that I am not so sure. Violence is truly an unholy tool...

An interesting point of view, though why would the state in this case be justified in dictating in what way parents shall provide for their children? ...

No.

Sure.

No.

The use of violence, coercion and the process of corruption and wherever those may lead it, yes. Undoubtedly. Centralized government has to do with co...

Black, white, man, woman. These are meaningless labels that fill our heads with assumptions about a given individual we may encounter, but in fact tel...

I think the things we have discussed are all fundamentally a part of government structures. Governments hold centralized power, which is something ind...

Even without communism it seems the Chinese Communist Party has plenty of dangerous ideals to export.

Morality being subjective can serve as its own moral guideline. The harder question would be, why anyone would be moral without believing in a religio...

During our discussion we have worked from the assumption that governments produce mostly positive outcomes, to counterbalance their usage of unjust me...

A small government that protects those individual rights that we deem important enough to accept the necessary evil of coercion. Protection from physi...

You guessed wrong, because it cannot be justified. Obviously I cannot sit here and claim I would let myself get killed. I do not know what I would do ...

I think you will find what all these destructive groups share, is exclusive group identity, and that is the more likely culprit, rather than groups th...