If you want to know what people think “spirit” means, then ask that. If you want to know if people think a “spirit” exists, define what you mean by sp...
In order to ask or answer whether or not something exists, one must first know what that something is. How do you expect anyone to answer such a poorl...
Thats a bit different than what I was saying, as you are offering a correction to someones label. You are telling them soecifically that you are not l...
I think granting the benifit of the doubt is preferable as well. It is better to assume a miscommunication rather than that the person is too stupid t...
The “someone elses assumption” IS the identification of the “ism”. You seem to have missed the point, perhaps I wasnt clear. The person hears the “ism...
Its similar to the logic behind my stance on offensive language. If the onus is on the person saying things, we are at the mercy of peoples sensitivit...
Well yes, that is where we disagree I think. People don’t pigeon hole themselves via someone elses assumption. That doesnt make sense to me. Rather th...
I would imagine the difference has something to do with the obviousness of the claim to others. No sane person denies the existence of cars or buildin...
I share your distaste for labels, but you were the one that made reference to what intelligent people do. I followed suit. Rich that you then saddled ...
No, it is the responsibility of the intelligent person not to be hopelessly stubborn about a “first impression” (ASSumption) or preconcieved notion ab...
Not very helpful. To the former, is that not what the discourse is? To convince another person with your compelling reasons or argument? The latter is...
What would be considered spamming? Is it the strictest, bot style spamming that is not acceptable, or would just repeating the same argument with a sl...
Lol, right? Its the attempt at sounding smart or intellectual through framing I think, or to try and fit in. Its not even necassary, most philosophica...
:lol: You crack me the fuck up. Also a big fan of when you ask people if they are on the Autism spectrum. Lol For myself, I do try and do those three ...
Then the motive shifts from something one is being forced to do to something one wants to do. That WOULD be facist. You would no longer be weighing th...
Lol, oh ok. I get it. Nicely done troll. I ignored you at first but you got me in the end. Kudos, honestly. You got me good there. I was like “How is ...
Holy shit, in your little scenario! I would tell you to go fuck yourself if you were a powerful marvel villain who told me to kill a baby or die! Holy...
I understand how it works. My issue is that you leave prejudice as the only remaining option once you remove all the other answers a person has for wh...
How are you able to offer this simplistic gem, but you go full retard about a more difficult moral equation? ... Nevermind, I answered my own question...
Not the scenario, the thought experiment. You seem to be backing off from the purpose of it being to effect self awareness of prejudice, and making th...
Thanks, I appreciate that. There seems so few sense makers here that ive wondered if it isnt just a matter of the medium or miscommunication of some k...
I know, I just had to let the steam out a bit or my head would explode. After reading through the responses in the “kill 1 billion” thread Ive began w...
Sure, I recognise the similarity of the terms, but they do have a distinction otherwise they would just be one word. However you want to put it, you h...
In the name of baby jesus this is getting SO tiresome. Not believing in at least one god is what atheism means! You have just declared you are not an ...
Praxis has operated within your parameters, he is the worlds ruler in your thought experiment. He rules that everyone kill as many people as they can ...
Well the choice will become more and more uncomfortable as you remove the answers people give, but I still do not understand how it will necessarily l...
Isnt that just a refusal to answer the question? In the scenario, every human being in world dies as you stand on a podium saying “do nothing, democra...
Ya, and? Are you saying forcing people to do something is never the answer? Forcing a population to do something is never the answer? Or are you worri...
I don’t think the scale really changes the principal of whats being done, except the increase in horror due to the increase in magnitude. Exploring wh...
No, whats scary is when someone wastes time trying to hold a moral high ground when in this scenario the alternative to finding an answer for the 1 bi...
Yes well it is a messy scenario, thats the point. You are not going to get 1 billion volunteers, so someone is going to have to have their personal au...
Can you expand on “mere practicality”? Why wouldnt that be a valid way of making the decision, if you had to make it. You wouldnt want it to be a pure...
I think that is what Sushi had in mind when he took the “lottery” option off the table. The point I think is to have to struggle with the morality of ...
What is the point of mocking the thought experiment? You just letting everyone know that killing a billion people is bad? You are under the impression...
I would try and think practically and feel good about saving the human race and feel bad about whatever groups didnt make the cut that didnt really de...
Yes, hence I asked if you were satisfied the numbers could be gotten to a billion with the groups I mentioned. You didnt answer. Obviously its horrifi...
I take it not killing the volunteers is their reward for being so selfless? Isnt that kinda shitting on their decision to do the right thing? You’re t...
I think it goes beyond even surgeries etc, we accept the deaths of very many people on a daily basis for convenience alone, for example the speed limi...
You’re an evil man Sushi lol, brutal question. I would start with the worst criminals and the terminally ill. The severly mentally disabled would prob...
Lol, case and point for the topic of this thread. Why would anyone stick around when you have to deal with people like this? We must be sick in the he...
When you say “true in some way”, don’t you mean “true in the same way” as the moon landing? Something can be true in accordance with the “preferences”...
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