DingoJones

Good post.

I think you are right about that Gnostic dude, he is proselytising and I think this forum actually does have a rule against that doesnt it? I posted r...

Ya, you are being dishonest here. At best, you arent communicating what you mean properly but now youre acting as though its some sort of dishonesty o...

Freedom of religion, not protection of religion. This is actually the quintessential example of what we are talking about here. If you can understand ...

I dont agree that religious ideas are special, a bad idea is a bad idea even its something cherished by the person. Religion is full of bad ideas, and...

I think you are conflating here...calling something ridiculous or stupid isnt always just a rude, hyperaggressive or otherwise dick move. Sometimes, a...

Seems to be a general symptom of online discourse, I wouldnt say its just free will topics. Religion, antinatalism, etc People just seem to doggedly t...

So what is confusing you here? People claim that two objects cannot occupy the same space because it doesnt seem as though they can. Pretty simple.

...right, self important douchbags. Thats what I said.

Alright, I understand. It seems pretty strange to me to call for a law to be in place and follow that up with how meaningless the law is (“its not lik...

Why do they know best? Are you saying that people (aside from your stated exceptions) who want to commit suicide are always mentally ill? I guess what...

Lol, well I have a range of views and sometimes they line up with other peoples. *shrug* (not that the free speech stuff is something I agree with Ter...

Lol, no...YOU dont know what Im talking about when I say it seems horrible to me. Im happy to clarify if you just ask. So you keep focusing on framing...

Well I dont think we should rashly submit to what someone says, that's a straw-man. This “rash” business is all you, not me. I don’t think anything ab...

I understand your practical view here, but im interested in the principal. So I agree that we want t to persuade our loved ones, whomever that may inc...

Why? What gives anyone the right to decide for someone else whether or not they are allowed to kill themselves? I understand about mental illness that...

Sure it is. Jump off a bridge, a tall building. Easy. If you are talking about the difficulty of going through with it then I submit your desire to no...

Right, im just saying its not a problem. Why make it into one? It doesnt really matter regarding the point being made, and I cant imagine it preventin...

Ok, but you are missing the point completely. Define religion however you want but if its different than how he defined it then he is obviously not ta...

He is using it in a general way, talking about something common to most/all religions, a moral framework...what? Whats the problem?

You think people didnt have do’s and dont’s before religion?

I think what you are noticing is not the forums tolerance to low quality religious discussion, but rather to low quality discussion in general. The re...

Its a “dating” app. People use it to have casual sex.

Well most people are aware of the wrongness of sexual predation, thats not the same as being sexually liberated. Sure, awareness about sexual predatio...

Maybe. What makes it more plausible? You think if there was no religion, sex wouldnt be one of the main “special” things for humans? I think its prett...

Sex is a huge part of the human psyche. So much of what people do and say and make rules for are based on the biological imperative to pass on genes, ...

What, as an atheist, would be a quality discussion about religion?

Just leave, no need to delete anything.

Right but it doesnt matter if someone reasons or not, right? People might do it, but they might not. Doesnt really matter to you does it? Re ceding mo...

There is no purpose to reasoning though, it doesnt matter how a person arrives at any ethical/moral position, or even that they make any attempt at al...

Lol, I knew that you would focus only on that one sentence. The rest of my post was meant to elaborate what exactly I was getting at. Lets address my ...

I understand about foundational stances, but you are saying it doesnt need to at least be internally consistent? You think someone thats not making an...

Yes, I practice meditation and have spent alot of time in deep reflection which becomes habit while thinking.

Wait you dont think reason plays a part at all? That someone has a moral stance that is contradictory and illogical doesnt matter to you at all, cuz t...

I would go further, and say introspection is INvaluable. Like the man said, the unexamined life is not worth living. I honestly respect a philosophica...

It might not be EXACTLY the same, though even a circle and another circle are not exactly the same. A circle can share a trait with something not a ci...

I think you are confused about what Terra is saying, but like I said I will go back and read and see what I missed that make your arguments less circu...

Right, just as arbitrary as the walking part of the crime. Just insert “walking” where “speech” is in your argument and the logic is exactly the same....

I didnt say all talk involving categories is circular. Strawman. I said you are being circular in your argument, and pointed out exactly why.

Yes I understand the distinction you are making. Just noticing the circular logic Echarmion is using.

The speech only needs to be positively established because you are defining it as part of the crime, what Im saying is you could just as easily define...

Well you are just defining speech as a constituent element. Its no more constituent than the walking. Thats my point, the logic is the same so you are...

So would you say that walking was a criminal act, because it was a constituent element of a guy walking into a bank, robbing it, then walking away?

You’ve given me nothing. What is it you imagine im addressing here? Your free speech arguments? Ive been fairly specific about what Im addressing. I m...

Those are not ad homs. It is me noticing you are being hypocritical and calling you out for it. If all you are getting from NOS is that he is “speakin...

I wasnt responding to your points, your not really making any anymore. I was responding to your shameful behaviour and hypocrisy. Also I, like you, wi...

I think you are the one that should be ashamed. You have allowed your bias and dislike of NOS4A2 (cuz of the Trump thread?) to subsume your rational t...

So you are basing your argument on the axiom that an act is wrong if it cannot be consented to? Is that right?

What are you offering for discussion? I would suggest keeping opening posts shorter and more concise. You will have an opportunity to get to all your ...

Meh, Im not a US hater. Plenty of stupid to go around, US included. Its that pesky human problem, always fucking everything up.