My impression was that he was unable to resist the pull of argument, that he wanted to be banned so he couldnt talk himself into coming back into bang...
If they express a desire to be banned though? How is that childish? There are rules with consequences and S not only broke the rule but essentially da...
I think its a bit simplistic to use a single metric to determine the morality of joining the army. Excessive force and harm are part of what the milit...
I agree with you, S was at least interesting but what can you do? He wanted to be banned, so I don’t see much of a choice for the mods but to accommod...
Agreed, sounds like stoner talk to me. Thats that thing that people do when they like something and so create a bunch of culture and ritual and bullsh...
I dont understand why its suddenly important to you how other people use words. I was correct in surmising that the conversation has moved on, and Im ...
Oh, NOW you want to make an appeal to what everyone else thinks. Lol You didnt answer my question, but instead pivoted to something else. I thought yo...
This is my last post on it: Im not talking about whether the standard itself is correct, Im talking about whats correct according to the standard. The...
Well this was why I was trying to explain my “objective standard” to you. I think it might have been useful to that end. I think it is what S is opera...
Its a major problem in actually understanding his position, and a major problem in communicating. Tough shit if you don’t want me to talk about commun...
That is one sense of “relative”, but I doubt its what S has in mind when he uses the term. Let me posit this: you guys are using the same words but in...
...You have to keep reading. Lol, you just skipped over the majority of it that does talk about your diagnosis. I pretty obviously moved on in the nex...
K well this is exactly what needs to be parsed with more than a flip “facepalm” S. i get why that makes you wanna bang your head against a wall, but y...
Its because you are stubborn about framing and im not much for being told how I have to frame things. Anyway, when you are saying that Terra should ca...
Some of it is true, some of it isnt. If you want flat out one or the other, I guess not true as some of it doesnt seem accurate or charitable. I dont ...
Maybe you didnt, thats the impression I get though. Have I made a mistake? If you realise you are frustrating people, do you just not care if people g...
Well I confess Im having trouble articulating to myself what exactly is going on. Part of it is semantics, some of it has to do with you two being stu...
Its a bit awkward for me to be interjecting (just a little disclaimer) but I can see how each of you is being frustrated. I find it hard to believe yo...
Honestly, I don’t think you have diagnosed much at all. You don’t seem concerned with understanding his view, only dismissing it and condemning it. I ...
Well I would say its correct/incorrect according to that axiom at least. I don’t think principal based ethics make much sense either, for similar reas...
How do you view operating from axioms? You see axioms as being neither correct or incorrect, but what about operating from axioms? You don’t think tha...
You do not understand the burden of proof sir. I know what you are saying seems a reasonable standard but its not, it is burdened by a myriad of absur...
Those are good points. I couldn't disagree more with this though... “In fact, being skeptical about others is a very bad thing. ” I believe the exact ...
People would be less susceptible to lies, more skeptical of what people say. If anyone and everyone was lying it would be necessary to think criticall...
I dont know. I thought I was being clear about what specifically Im addressing and its not that. Its fine, your onto this other stuff with them now so...
Like I said, thats a different issue. I dont find appeals to whats commonly held to be true very compelling either. Im on the objective standard stuff...
Well, there are more disagreements going on than Im attempting to address. I think one stumbling point is how some words are being used and understood...
Well the conversation has moved on, but yes you have the basic idea of what Im getting at. Its a distinction which will make the conversation less fru...
Im not talking about whether the standard itself is correct, Im talking about whats correct according to the standard. The “inch” is not under a rock ...
Yes, thats how the standard is created/adopted, subjectively. Im not talking about that. Once that is done, it isnt our feelings that we reference, it...
Ok, so we get 7” not from a reference to anything subjectively (*edited from “subjective”) but rather from referencing the agreed upon standard. Right...
Right, because we are referencing a standard of what an inch is, that we’ve agreed upon. So 7” inches is what the length is in inches, and 5” is not w...
No, it makes sense from a certain perspective. Its just that you two are talking about two different things. I dont think this is some sort of patholo...
Ok, so if I measure a stick and it comes to 7”, what do I say to you when you look at it by eye and say “no, its 5” long”. Are you using the standard ...
I didn't say it did. Im just saying that here is a standard (inches), and if we both agree to use that standard then we can use it to measure things i...
Ok, so as an example, the unit of measurement of an “inch”. Lets agree to use that standard of measurement. So we have a tape measure, and its marked ...
I think part of the problem is the terms being used, some baggage on a few that seems to be causing confusion. You are essentially talking about refer...
You are just referencing back to the subjective premiss. Sure, if you dont want to be consistent, or be rational, or operate within reason then there ...
I don’t think either of them are referencing an objective world with desires/subjective feeling, but rather an objective standard that makes sense fro...
Because anti-Clinton people are not called bigots, and anti Islamic people are called bigots. People would get banned for the latter, not the former. ...
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