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So are you saying that conscious experience arises out of the mere fact that chemical actions are happening there? So is my Soda bottle conscious? The...

ok Yes No. You’re not. The conscious you is a part of the organism that controls your thoughts. Not all of it.

Murder and rape are natural..... this is just a naturalistic fallacy. Having a child obviously forces a child to exist, it IS forcing. You didn’t choo...

you can reply to people directly if you press the arrow under what they wrote. Otherwise they don’t get notified of a reply and might miss what you sa...

The hard problem of consciousness is WHY is there such a manifestation? Why couldn’t all the brain processes be happening “in the dark” so to speak. B...

to prove you have complete control over your thoughts don’t think of a white bear for the rest of your life (I think further examples are redundant at...

They weren’t. The idea that you can ignore all moral considerations when it comes to risking someone ELSE’S life for your own ideals was. If I saw “gr...

Rereading some of this I came across this quote right here. I thought you kept saying that the mind is physical no? That consciousness is just a brain...

I think there may be something with terrapin being in a thread and it reaching 30 pages in a week.

You said it yourself. For INDIVIDUAL harm. Not for another individual's harm. Are you saying your higher purpose is so high you wouldn't mind harming ...

Yes I would be compromising such a purpose. Tell me exactly who that harms. I don’t think an act is wrong if it doesn’t actually harm anyone so who ex...

Yes. Unless it is for some greater purpose. But you can’t guarantee your child will find such greater purpose. No. Future life should not be introduce...

If you don’t think in terms of good and bad then how are you doing ethics right now? What IS your good reason exactly? That you yourself believe in th...

That is false first of all. I haven’t stated an opinion about “the balance of suffering/pleasure” because I don’t think it matters. Unlike most of the...

True, and I believe you should be part of that minority if you want to avoid seeming like a hypocrite. Whether or not birth = bad is what I came here ...

let’s say it is of medium quality.

I don’t think it can be “right” or “wrong”. “Is liking vanilla ice cream right?”

That’s exactly what I’m saying won’t happen. Because among the morally irresponsible some will learn to become morally responsible. Because moral resp...

Yes, because to most people different moral statements have certain connecting “themes” or “logic” behind them. Most people don’t randomly juggle word...

I would invite them to think about it. If they don’t want to then there’s not much I can do about that.

"suffering more than they would without modifications" then but also it's 3:35 and I'm going to bed

They COULD. Then I'd ask them "Is genetically modifying a child to suffer as much as possible ok by you?" And if they say no then they were lying init...

Thank you for finally answering the question. Now. For me to pretend I am a subjectivist/emotivist I would have to say that I believed that me thinkin...

I probably do misunderstand it but can you please answer the question?

What does this actually mean though

So the answer is no? I'm just saying that not making sense from a subjectivist/emotivist standpoint isn't really a problem with antinatalism only

Is there a way to make sense of any ethical stance from a subjectivist/emotivist standpoint?

I think you're misunderstanding what I've been saying all along. I never said "Antinatalism is objectively the case" or "Antinatalism is true". All I ...

No no no, I'd say I am. I just don't think a moral statement cannot have a truth value. On the other hand, I think "truth value" is context dependent....

So the 3 statements are completely disconnected?

Oh I thought "that way" was P1

But wasn't that the same with P1:Murder is wrong P2:Hiring someone to kill someone else is murder C:Hiring someone to kill someone else is wrong And y...

Ok then. How about this P1: Creating happy people is morally neutral P2: Creating suffering people is morally bad P3: Giving birth risks creating eith...

For you does this sound like an argument? P1:Murder is wrong P2:Hiring someone to kill someone else is murder C:Hiring someone to kill someone else is...

So all thieves think theft is morally ok? Does that mean they wouldn't mind if someone robbed them? Just saying "emotivism is the case" doesn't make i...

A moral statement is not necessarily a statement of how one feels. I think moral statements arise from taking what many many people feel in common and...

Ok let's go back

Why not? How do you know that if A = B and B= C that A = C is true?

No. I'm saying that in every single reasoned argument about anything there is a starting premise taken to be true. Math was an example. This starting ...

In math how do you know that if A = B and B= C that A = C. That's a premise. And it's taken to be true because it's not provable. Same thing in reason...

If we were emplying the "doesn't benefit at all" limit then this would be a bad example because in every single instance of sending a child to school,...

You can assume a moral statement is true and reason from there.

but I thought we were reducing it to pleasure = good, pain = bad for the sake of argument? Yes it is. Because a world of the "morally irresponsible" i...

Why not?

Yes and by "benefit" I meant that the "mean value" of the situation goes up. Not that the maximum pleasure possible goes up. As I explained. I'm not s...

That's not how it works because "morally responsible" isn't the same as "blood type O". It can be learned. You aren't born with it. That's why there h...

There is benefit if the expected value of a situation goes up. Example: Situation A: 5 points of pleasure, 50% chance. 5 points of suffering 50% chanc...

You don't need to but I agree let's start with that. What else should dictate it? "2 billion years of evolution" is not a person with interests. So I ...

That has no effect on whether or not antinatlism follows from the moral premises I mentioned. If, say a state had very few law enforcement officers an...