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None. Then again, I’m not claiming having kids harms non existent ghost babies. I’m claiming it risks harming real people. That the real person didn’t...

I’d like to hear those. I don’t mean this in a challenging or standoffish way, I’m just curious if there’s any I haven’t heard before.

And panpsychism is saying that every material object has such an immaterial object attached to it. It then becomes a problem how these immaterial obje...

No and you’re being willfully blind. In the scenario in question the choice is between 100% chance of severe suffering (and death) or a slight chance ...

First off, I don’t think feeding them is an obligation. You never have an obligation to help someone unless you harmed them yourself. So you’re propos...

I’d just like to warn you that shamshir is going to devolve to personally insulting you when it comes to this topic.

I don’t get why it wouldn’t be but then again, I didn’t think that clause had any significance whatsoever and I still don’t get what significance it m...

first off, you might want to press the arrow under peoples posts so they get a notification you replied to them otherwise they might not notice you re...

And I think that would've made much more sense.

the way you're wording it, it seems your confusing "self evident" with "very intuitive". Self evident is something that must be true for anything to m...

How is that self evident? I don't think it's self evident at all. Can you "see" minds? How then can you say that cup of tea has no mental properties

How do you define "freely" in a way that doesn't just boil down to "a mix of random and deterministic" though? It's not so much reason as intuition I ...

It has nothing to do with that necessarily. It's just a desire to protect someone from unnecessary harm.

No for me. I refer you to the "On Antinatalism" post but if you don't want to scroll through 40 pages for me, here is the gist of it: 1: Creating happ...

"Natural" and "Unnatural" often just translate to "Do this" and "Don't do this" respectively. They have nothing to do with nature. We are part of natu...

It’s more “the property to be able to personally feel, which cannot be measured in others for now” No because the statement “cannot be measured in oth...

I read that already. So if I made a self teaching AI that keeps strengthening the chances it does a certain action based on a past history of whether ...

Neither. The problem is it could just simply be that there is a "smallest time". As in the smallest amount of time that could exist. Similar to how th...

So my computer logging the keyboard inputs into temporary memory then reproducing them on the screen makes it conscious? Also, if someone lost the abi...

But then those same people are apphaled by rapists, murderers, totaitarian governments, terrorist groups, etc..... That's the inconsistency here. It i...

Not having it Sure Yes, but I don't think ascribing will is per common sense understanding. That's the point

It's a word describing a phenomena we're looking for. If hjyhfdfddf is a phenomena with a specific definition it's an empirical claim. But that's not ...

But not a red one I’ll just leave it at that then

why not? Claim: A red ball exists in this box Fact (if you’re taking what he’s saying as true): If a ball existed in this box, it would be blue Conclu...

the Christian god is all good. If you confirm god, if he exists is not good, then whatever god may or may not exist is not the Christian god. Or the g...

cool. Also I didn’t even start this post.

It has everything to do with whether or not the Christian god exists though.

I gave a very simple definition though right? “Something is conscious if it has subjective experiences” First off, nothing about this claim is philoso...

This isn’t the same degree of uncertainty we’re talking here. We’re talking “let’s make an entire scientific theory about the necessary conditions for...

In my defense, the other guy is also quite insufferable. Shamshir or whatever his name was. Let’s test that. You have 3 starving people And 2 solution...

But never someone else’s. Which means you can’t assume WE find our own consciousness. You do (hopefully) and I do (definitely) You can’t say that thou...

No. Consciousness has never been found. It has been assumed so far. We don't have a consciousness-o-metre. What has actually been observed is that (as...

How has this been observed? What HAS been observed is that, when consciousness arises, certain biological processes are required. This does not imply ...

Did I? My bad then And I’m saying that from there, you cannot say that the only way to feel something is through the logging

The capacity to do X is distinct from X. If something has a feeling, it obviously has the capacity for feeling right? My capacity to raise my arm is d...

are you willing to argue or no? You’re projecting. It’s you who can’t commit to your own moral premises all the way to end.

Pretty sure yea. I'll take ANYTHING as long as it can be labeled "experience" in some reasonable manner There would be a contradiciton had I attempted...

Yes. And as I've shown, neither you nor anyone actually believes creating happy people is good in and of itself. If you want to debate that you're wel...

I agree completely. Not giving birth is not sparing anyone harm. It is not a good thing. I have never claimed that antinatalism means that not having ...

You could’ve said that at the start m8. I take back calling you a hypocrite. If you believe that you’re Gucci. I don’t agree with it, think it’s bogus...

Yes, but your decision did not impact the atoms in any way. That’s what I’m saying. Disagreements about concepts don’t change the world. Would be a bi...

You know what subjective means. You know what experience means. I don’t see the issue. Subjective experiences are what you’re having right now (assumi...

That if every single thing required a definition or a theory and made no sense without it that nothing would make sense. Because you’d be defining wor...

Something is conscious if it has subjective experiences. Are subjective experiences necessary for a report of subjective experiences to be made? Are t...

Yes you can. Some things work like that. Other examples include: shape, space, time. All of these things you know before any theories about them have ...

This is almost impossible. It will mean the world has to keep returning to an initial state over and over again. That makes you think our world works ...

It can, but it won’t. That’s sort of the whole point. Statistically speaking, it is almost impossible for entropy to decrease in a complicated system

X is “cannot be measured” and Y is “needs the specific mental processes in our brain” Yes. I am absolutely certain we don’t have a consciousness-o-met...

Correct. Any source of dripping water can be described as rain. Clouds aren’t necessary for rain. Though it’s safe to assume no one is artificially ma...

Sufficient*. Just because brain causes consciousness doesn’t mean brain is necessary for consciousness. You’re claiming the brain is necessary and suf...