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This is the best summary so far. No mention of metaphysics anywhere so no pointless nitpicking possible.

Yup. False. It’s simply that it is not what’s being done. Shope just explained to you well what is being done. And so have I countless times. I don’t ...

Sure and I discussed that with Benkei for a while until he stopped replying. But it was clear he had an arbitrary premise as well, despite claiming th...

Correct but not very convincing. I don’t think anyone here is willing to say something like “Birth, although similar to malicious genetic engineering ...

If you do not consider acts that result in harm to people that are born yet as wrong, then you cannot say that malicious genetic engineering is wrong....

So are all the other alternatives. Which makes the statement “There is something wrong with antinatalism” false.

You can't even say that much for certain. Many parents regret having children, because they weren't actually prepared. Because in this case if we don'...

The criteria required is basically impossible. I’ve gone over it before with echarimon. You would need to show that having kids is the less risky opti...

I think it's that this forum is a bit more "personal" than most. In most forums you mainly see the post, don't see the same people too often, no way t...

I didn’t say that. You should examine it situation by situation. Sending kids to school is not always right and not always wrong. My point is, there i...

And so we can agree that it’s dubious whether or not they should be forced to go to school by their parents no? Principle still seems to apply. I woul...

More specifically, I think there is a distinction to be made between wanting people to agree with you and needing people to agree with you. Everyone h...

If I happen to be a masochist and I think it’s likely that you will enjoy being tortured does that give me a right to torture you?

I was implying that all of these things were done to reduce the suffering on them or others. I thought that was obvious. We make Kids go to school and...

Yes and I'm saying that we should use the 8 despite of this. Because the remembering self is what really matters. Or at least, there is no reason you ...

The summative evaluation for me. If they don’t consider it a problem as a whole then why should I? And how do you aggregate these moments anyways? You...

False. I think it's very clear that badness is contextual. Murder is bad, killing in self defense is not for example. Similarly, torturing a child is ...

I don't agree. I think if we know the person in question will find their life worthwhile then it's fine. Problem is we don't. They don't really I thin...

There are no examples in society where people are forced to do things against their will unless it reduces suffering to them or others. Or at least th...

I think the only thing you can do with someone like that is ask them how often they inflict suffering on non-dependents because it “makes them better”...

We agree if this is changed to “and one cannot be certain of it”. I also assume the possibility of truth. Not that there is any way to confirm such a ...

You don’t know it is true though. That is the point. You require undoubtable knowledge not just belief.

I don’t think those are the same thing. I agree with the latter not the former. I agree that there is value of getting out of a less ideal state to a ...

Still there seems to be a clear contradiction. You’ve stated before that there are situations where having children is wrong. I don’t see how you can ...

I forgot about “If they don’t like it they can just kill themselves so it’s fine”. That’s gotta be the worst. Strange what can come out of otherwise r...

Only in the first. Not in both.

Simple and straightforward. I like it. The standard argument against this is either “It’s not a mess” (false, it very much can be) or “But we need to”...

Ok. In that case I’ll add they they’re reasonable. I’ve seen them very frequently with other ANs, though mostly the ones that misinterpret the argumen...

How about “None of what I can say is true except this”? Paradox resolved. Or something like “I cannot know that what I say is true but I don’t see how...

Because in the process you come up with better and better solutions to problems. At no point does your conclusion become unfalsifiable though. Is to s...

What’s the weird territory you land in for not having: Because I can’t think of any.

False on all accounts. Apply your own standard and try to support your claims instead of throwing them out. Funny you’re chewing someone out for not s...

Why do they need to be of anything? I literally just said "perceptions with no world". Granted though I'm venturing into some very weird territory her...

Does that setup somehow make it impossible for people to have the same perceptions/views? No. Last I checked idealists did not spontaneously lose thei...

Those aren't the only two alternatives. How about: No world, only perceptions? Like the idealists like it.

What is channel 1 and channel 2 supposed to be analogous for?

As I said, there are countless advantages. Having people who agree with you is great. You can cooperate, agree on certain things, reinforce each other...

Changed it. Don't need the "of it" in that sentence.

False. We can still agree and disagree about our perceptions. In the sense that we can have different ones. And we can also want everyone to have the ...

What does "flat earthers' world" even mean? Doubtful. Or else every moral relativist would never speak about morals again. But they do. Wanting agreem...

To do that we’d have to understand what happens to consciousness when we die. We don’t yet. We can’t ask the dead if they’re in heaven. You can twist ...

To postulate an objective reality that we can be wrong about is to say that everyone is biased. Or at least, that there is no way to tell that you hav...

My answer is "What's the difference?" Or, in more detail: Why propose an objective reality that you can be wrong about? What advantage does that give ...

Good. That's all I was saying was not the case.

How would your rank them? I didn't say that's how they should be ranked, I said that's how I would rank them. So no. Not necessarily. You could argue ...

Yea But if you were to rank these abstract values wouldn't they be ranked by the strength of the associated emotional reactions when violated anyways?...

My point is that stealing form someone you hate feels good, yet is wrong. So pforrest's claim that what is morally right is what feels good hedonistic...

Do you know what "despite" means? And I would say that it is pretty clear that how much guilt you experience varies greatly depending on context. Stea...

If that's what you're referring to then yes, obviously how an activity feels goes a long way in determining whether or not we consider it right. If it...

Agreed. Which is why you should learn to read carefully. The label in question was "Moral claim" not "Morally wrong". Read the second response. Maybe ...