Yeah that's fine. Yeah his writing is dense so definitely room for interpretation, however the basic atoms of his ontology were called "actual occasio...
You are missing his point. Rotating a cube in your mind is a phenomenon. Physiological/biological processes are a phenomenon. They are correlated. Yet...
Yes agreed. The going to work example: I don't want to work, but I will continue because of X. You know you can do otherwise, but you continue with th...
Cool. End of philosophy. No not it. Rather, how is it that experience is at all, along with biochemical processes. Just the piling on of more biochemi...
Now you know how it feels every time I hit reply to you :wink: Humble and helpful is not your MO. How you can posture as looking "more superior than t...
First off, I didn't say I myself am panpsychist, though I can sympathize with it. Secondly, I said in my post about panpsychism that it is a "bullet" ...
Reasons. You said it. I’ll walk you through it. Someone decides to keep working even though they don’t want to. Why? You can stupidly debate me on thi...
There is no burden like this for other animals, for example. They have burdens, but not this burden. Ok, I agree here. The burden of continuing, stopp...
You have conflated easier problems with the Hard Problem. Easier problems deal with mechanisms for brain function. This can be tested and is amenable ...
@"Tom Storm" @"Wayfarer" @"180 Proof" @"Metaphysician Undercover" @"Mww" @"Banno" I have a sneaking suspicion that often "realists" and "idealists" of...
We can literally move to another location on the other side of the planet if we had the means to get there. Sure, that would cause other things, but t...
So my point was the extra burden of the extra effort for motivation. Going back to the garden, or a job we rather not do otherwise than getting paid. ...
Funny you say that, I heard a segment from a scientist who conducted studies to show how what we often contribute to instinct in animals is actually a...
Yes it can, you can indeed soil your nightclothes. But that would be uncomfortable otherwise. You have a reason not to. And there is a reason. Sure, a...
Glad it resonated. So let me give some phenomenological aspects here: 1) You "wake up" and get out of bed. You decide to go to the bathroom. Perhaps t...
Thanks for comments. So I did predict that answers were going to focus on the idea that animals too have some sort of deliberation, and that may be tr...
Yeah, engineering is NOT philosophy. And that was my point when I said sciences are not like philosophy (I include engineering in that), so yeah keep ...
I'll wear all the hats I want, thank you very much. Baseball cap, sombrero, derby....I don't mind indulging in various metaphysical standpoints, some ...
Yes, I know the rejection of the Cartesian thing. I get it. Essentially he just re-introduced the Platonic skepticism of what we deem as "real", and m...
I think at the end of the day, the mind/body problem becomes the nexus point by which both sides meet. Things like the Cartesian Theater fallacy will ...
I think a form of neutral monism or panpsychism has seen a rise in David Chalmers, Philip Goff, Galen Strawson. Then there are mathematical Platonists...
No. He's bringing it up. He is trying to say something with it. There are a lot of facts about the world. This doesn't mean I have to bring them up un...
How is that an issue? That is what you are not answering. You are making an observation into a normative claim, but trying to say you aren't. Again, t...
Aren't you committing a bandwagon fallacy? Your claims must be true because a majority of X believe them? The very idea of empirical is at the root of...
Quoting Schopenhauer and Brian Magee on Schopenhauer, excellent :up:! Nice! I will say though by mentioning quantum physics, you are going to allow ot...
I never said they see different things. They have a different cognitive framework based on their bodies. No, I don't. It was not analogous to mind but...
Correct, I think? Humans make observations of the world. Insofar as these observations are contingently known through our experiences, they tell us fa...
I think once again, this doesn't capture the nuances of the argument whether it's metaphysics or epistemological realism. Kant would say that there ar...
Understanding the ways that realism breaks down is most interesting I guess. But that doesn't entail being an idealist. Agnostic might make most sense...
I just don't get how that is possible when you have a massive network, distributing sensory experience from different regions and rei-integrating them...
I was more interested in non-living with non-living things. However, even this account, though fun to read, is simply the human view of a tree doing w...
Interesting. Physical properties interacting with each other without perceivers, becomes oddly anthropomorphic in its conception. The objects become i...
I also think there is a reification and exaltation of mundanity. If it's not about accuracy of numbers crunching, or a goal of some sort of complex cu...
Yes indeed. Agreed. I think people get persnickety because it goes beyond the empirical descriptions of scientific textbooks. It is speculative and th...
But going back to the rock interacting with the tree, I would like to at least ask the question how it is that physical properties obtain without perc...
Yeah I'm with you. I don't like using direct or indirect realism either. I think oddly enough, we are all in agreement about the outdated/outmoded dic...
You seemed to indicate that Witty is saying philosophy is a hindrance to spiritual fulfillment, but what if it is part of it for some people? And thus...
What if debating philosophy gives us social and spiritual fulfillment? Some philosophers like the perplexing madness of it (though dealing with shitty...
A human experience, a bat experience, and a slug experience of the tree is obviously very different. A rock's interacting with a tree is even more far...
Correct, though if I was a good realist, I’d add in evolutionary fit regarding why this empirical world and not a bats, or a slug, let alone interacti...
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