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On a side note, this was one of the better conversations I have seen in regards to what is happening and where it might be going. @"ssu", you might fi...

So now it if you who are not differentiating?

:lol: If he loses it’s rigged, if he wins it’s just.

So the question at hand is what counts as being that object versus no longer being that object- either it is a proto-object where it is the components...

So are you splitting hairs on who is more barbaric? Are they for the 800s? Again this looks kind of 600s to me: Calling for a Jihad and then actually ...

Right, it's not just the rhetoric, but the actions that makes it seem like people are doing a false equivalency when we compare Hamas with say, Likud....

I'm just wondering, is there a strategy here, cynical one? Perhaps you can reference articles why Israel didn't take it... Started? Unlike Likud, Hama...

No, you see, I already acknowledged who I'd prefer to be in power, and voted in. However, in this debate where it's heavily one-sided I choose not to ...

Do you mean like the suicide bombings that regularly occurred in Israel prior to them building that wall in the West Bank? Do you mean the reason why ...

Sure, it is a shorthand, admittedly when I use "causal-historical chain". Perhaps a "causal web" is better. Indeed, I brought up earlier, Harman's ide...

That’s cool but even more to my point as it’s so unique. That doesn’t counter my gametes theory, it just elaborates on an interesting variation of it.

What differentiates one individual from the other? The discernible is the persons combination of gametes at an instance. All counterfactual after that...

Wonder why :rofl: you make that sound like it was not relevant to be concerned about security. Take a deal and build on it. As Maher said, how’s the o...

My quest here is to find an objective thing that differentiates a person from being all possibilities that that person can hold. Clearly the stopping ...

Only after conception yes. Before no.

BEFORE conception? Like a transposable soul or something? :brow:. After perhaps yeah.

This is a good point because this started as a discussion of hindsight and counterfactuals - what life would be like if you were born in different cir...

Yes, the word "personal" really screwed up the discussion because I am really discussing modal identity. My theory of substance and causal-historical-...

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Also I did explain here how whilst in an 8 minute video, even that could still be construed as "correct" as it is acknowledged that the British at var...

So I knew you were going to bring up the Likud part there.. It would make sense if it was symmetrical but the point he was making isn't symmetrical. H...

And then look behind you and you see @"Benkei" who also didn't get the point of the video. Um, not sure what video you watched, but Maher isn't making...

Cool, sorry yeah I used Ulster province as a shorthand for the name of the six individual counties that are under the British (versus the remaining 3 ...

The British were "starting" the empire, by settling the Scottish/Northern English Presbyterian/Anglican / Protestant immigrants. They were "maintainin...

:up: So a familiar debate tactic is to focus on some wording issue. Thus the main idea is lost to fighting over the trees and not the forest. I don't ...

Oh yeah, he wasn't going to discuss all that in an 8 minute segment. Just watch the video. But, to be fair, it depends in what part of the history you...

@"Baden" Anyways, videos are meant to be watched. There are demographics and timing things, and jokes made that are not really understood through just...

Yes, I heard you say that, but you didn't provide your reason for your disagreement. As far as the show, yea I generally agree. He isn't writing all t...

Seem to be a common tactic..

Eh, Maher is okay. He is particularly hung up on people laughing at his jokes. I just happen to agree with him. He generally has many viewpoints on hi...

He's summarizing in perfunctory way in 8 minute segment. I am not saying it's impressive, just his points are correct, whether it's an impressive 2 ho...

Then the casual-spatial aspect still remains, just like the regular twin scenario. Think of it this way: For "natural kinds", the necessary component ...

I can meet you in the middle and give you a transcript :wink: 0:00 -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -And finally, New Rule. 0:02 I know, it's supposed to be tha...

I meant to add @"ssu" https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/863275

Too bad, being he makes great points there... And it's only 8 minutes!

@"Baden" @"Merkwurdichliebe" @"RogueAI" I saw that one! Very good one. Let me help you out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw

Yes. I don't think that's refuting my point. It is getting at where it is that is necessary for that object to have been the person now reflecting bac...

I think it's simply the notion of accepting that the gametes are necessary at a certain causal-historical point in time for that person to be that per...

Yes. Okay, makes sense. And goes along with my impulse to expand it... You seem to be agreeing? Yes, there is no world in which schopenhauer, the obje...

The causal dubbing by way of causality is "throw-away" and not a part of his theory? Interesting. I thought that was one of his main theories that cam...

Now you have thoroughly confused me. In Naming and Necessity, it's basically about just that. You name an individual thing (a proper name/ demonstrati...

Why can a substance not be this "individual constant"? If not that, "what" is the individual constant? Just any old thing that is designated so at a p...

So this always bothered me.. Why would a kind be different than an individual in terms of substance that it is identified with? I will try to answer t...

Can you give me the post? I just got the mention.

What is being argued? Are arguing whether Western societies are "superior"? And can we switch out "societies" with "values"? Can we also throw in ther...

What is the argument now?

Here is an interesting passage from Wiki on rigid designators: So, I think I am in alignment with this, but with some additions. YOU is rigidly design...

Nah, I am not buying to that rhetoric, and I told you the reasons in the last post.

I am for them being more targeted. I said as such. What else can I say? I want Netanyahu gone. I want a moderate approach to their war in Gaza.

It wouldn't "justify" it, but it would explain it, and put less of that onus on "That is Israel's failure" and instead of giving no agency or responsi...