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Yes, I think you are right. Schop had the notion that everyone had a Platonic version of their character that was outside the PSR and thus beyond time...

Can you give an example of this? When I read that work, he seems to indeed be using the terms "motive" and "incentive" interchangeably. However, I wou...

I think he means that to have compassion for another entails that one suffers directly with the other. So presuppose is meant as a synonym for entail ...

Or even better, if the OP was interested in his own thread. Often I see these newer posters start a thread and then never participate in the actual co...

If you are interested at all in the possible genes involved in the evolution of the human brain, The Birth of the Mind: How a Tiny Number of Genes Cre...

If it makes a difference, most philosophical topics revolve around the same themes eventually, just slightly different arrangement of furniture. The r...

Welcome to the forum. I'm a resident antinatalist here and have many threads on this you might want to read. There have been some recent ones actually...

Guess this discussion is over.

Well, you didn't really address the problems I pointed out with your argument, but that's to be expected. What this statement here shows is what I'll ...

Nietzsche in the natural flesh...

Oh c'mon apo, what does that even mean? That's like religions using "Natural Law" to justify their religion. How do you "divine" Natural Law would be ...

Funny, I saw the same hubris there :grin:

Seems to me YOU'RE the one who thinks they have special privilege to the whisperings of nature. The modern day prophet/soothsayer/NATURE whisperer. I'...

Again, my preference leads to no negative outcomes for a future individual. No structural or contingent suffering experienced by a future person. De f...

My outcome leads to no negative outcome for a future individual. Can't one do this without kids? Anyways, what makes these three things you mention va...

Because there is always tension between the individual and society (unless society's givens/expectations/roles are EXACTLY what the individual wants, ...

So basically this argument is about antinatalism and whether to expose new people into this dynamic of individual vs. group (or individual being integ...

My point was about acquiescing freedom of thought to the demands of the given. Here we are with a personality (granted it is created from group intera...

I don't deny that, we agree on the bumpiness. The preference to continue it though is yours.

No no, you are right in that I desire smooth and frictionless, but you are wrong that I think you want frictionless. I'll rephrase the qualifier of "s...

We are born into the given- an accumulation of general processes over time. We can only work within that given and never create it whole out of cloth....

What Schopenhauer called will. There is a bit of giddyness to some aspects of pessimism ironically. I've mentioned that before. To read a really good ...

Thanks for sharing the video.

Not in the real world. I haven't seen many "Communities of Existential Thought" in many cities. There's probably one or two somewhere I'm sure on a me...

And what causes this effort to be balanced in the first place? Why does this balancing act need to take place? Ah, the existential questions- in other...

So what exactly is the need for more people? What is the X reason? I think you have a well-stated post. Actually, it might be the most coherent respon...

I have no enmity towards those who are caught up in circular routines. In fact, we all (including pessimists) must do it to survive. We are built with...

Most people think there is some teleology to their existence. At any particular time, I should be doing X thing. But this isn't the case. Rather there...

So here is a value-judgement upon what a person should be doing. Please do elaborate? And then I'll appeal to the usual structural suffering of whatev...

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the quote. What I do know is that when you are born, and you take on an identity and your personality shapes,...

Then you have missed the point of philosophical pessimism. You are never out of it. Existence is always something that is to be grappled with- not jus...

You sneak in a lot of YOUR preferences as what OUGHT to be. You are creating an ought from an apokrisis :lol: . No one has to "want" or "expected to p...

By what faulty logic would you presume people need the "possibility of growth in civilized selfhood" (whatever reification that means). You put the ca...

This presents its own contradiction. Why do more people have to be born to benefit mankind? What does that end goal really mean? If it is something li...

I guess the two follow-ups are: 1) What is your definition of intrinsic and instrumental good? 1a) Why isn't pleasure an intrinsic good? 2) Why is inh...

I am not advocating going backwards in time. I am just pointing to our ignorance and how beholden we are to larger forces we had no hand in and did no...

I guess they would respond, "What's wrong with wanting a child to go into existence to feel pleasure/happiness"? I have my own reply, but just wonderi...

The point of my post was to address the fact that we are mostly ignorant of the very processes and things we take utilize in daily life. We become pas...

Anything in response to my first response?

Was that to my previous response or its own separate post?

I meant to say that most are lever pushing outside the very few who change processes for millions. They perhaps have a much greater stake in the produ...

All lever pushing. That versus the person who invents a better processor or whole new systems which millions rely upon.

Agreed. People will possibly say that they are giving an opportunity for the child to experience and self-actualize. I'm not sure your response to thi...

I'll give another response too. Knowing how the products that we use works means we are an active participant in the very things that surround our eco...

See the response above:

How about these questions: What if everyone in the world decided not to work? What is it we are trying to get out of life in the first place? The absu...

No, in a way, I do mean just that about product's production. Consumers don't know much about the very technology they use. Most people praise this as...

I consider myself to be a philosophical pessimist and write about it frequently on the forum. Have you heard of Thomas Metzinger? He is a neuroscienti...

I think a good follow-up question is whether existence is inherently suffering. On the surface, one might be inclined to say that the world is objecti...

Do you think there is something intractable in life itself which your main solutions of better community and more projects to focus on will not be abl...