Yep this forum, even in it's original incarnation was never one that promoted healthy exchange. It's as if people here equate dbaggery with superior a...
Right, so what scale do these properties subsist in-itself? Properties subsist, but not scale of these properties, you say. Then what does it mean to ...
This should just be the slogan of all forums and comment sections. Instead of engaging in a respectful way, it is easy to simply antagonize and patron...
It can be argued that Schopenhauer himself wasn't an antinatalist in the Benatar fashion. Rather, his was more of a lament than an ethical guideline. ...
Ah, well as long as you know what's "best" for everyone, and being born and generally going along with it, I guess we can all agree, because clearly p...
Ok, in this context, scale is related with a point of view. The point of view of a human has a certain scale to it. We do not observe strings, we do n...
Why is this scale preferred over the other scales though? I'm not getting the necessary connection between primary and ultimate scale the universe sub...
And there isn't deception and agendas being crammed down people to procreate and then get people through life to procreate some more.. No pain, no gai...
Here is where you are off the mark. Neutrality (no badness here) of a devoid life matters not to no one. No eternal being is crying, no ghost babies a...
And having kids isn't a messiah complex? Oh, the "mission" to bring happy people into the world following the agendas of this or that. Procreation is ...
By the way, for anyone who is interested, maybe @"Coben" and @"Terrapin Station", here is a rudimentary understanding of Schopenhauer's concepts from ...
Yes, this is a good observation. Much of the OCD symptoms are a spectrum, and even non MI people, might have a touch of it on the very weak part of th...
Ugh, I meant to convey that perspective of the universe without a mind, means what in terms of the scale of the universe? At what scale does the unive...
It only matters to prevent suffering. Having good only matters to those already born. All the people alive who report that they experience something "...
None of that would matter prior to birth. No forcing, no deprivation. You can't force someone to play a game you think they will like at some point (a...
Perspective is the state of the universe without a human perceiving it. In this case the scale.. All strings all the way down.. the whole universe all...
So desiring is like a wound that is never clotted by simply fulfilling a desire. Physiological pain (pain being by its nature unpleasant) attend many ...
Insatiable and unfulfilled desires are painful by their very nature. That we are lacking something at almost all times, and the fact that fulfilling s...
It's looking at the big picture and seeing a uniform principle. Not everyone will see that. Gravity affects you, but you do not have to understand how...
Right, at what level of scale is the universe operating? I can say we are all strings, but we don't operate on the string level. Molecules, atoms, wav...
I think stress is a huge factor, but more in the fact that it magnifies the compulsive affects that are already there in the OCD person. For example, ...
I don't necessarily think there is an all-pervading Will, though I think there are some interesting ideas that could be useful from it. I do think the...
I find it ironic that you use this example, as I think this is more something that natalists would use... "Oh life is justifiable because it has Disne...
Good point. But that's not the whole experience of OCD. It's when one is caught in an aggressive loop that this now has no positive impact for the ind...
Oh good, thank you. So all of this is wrong about Schopenhauer's view. Schopenhauer's ideal would probably be something like Nirvana- a complete lack ...
The fact that we are in a deprived state = suffering. It matters not what people evaluate about this or that actual experience. In this model, it is a...
Right, so talking about string theory to get my car fixed would also be appropriate? I did say "per se" because I knew you were going to bring up that...
The problem is they aren't commensurable per se. One is about the scientific laws of the universe, one is about human nature. You never answered, why ...
I am not misleading anyone. Creating the conditions for suffering for another being "ok" because you have an agenda for them (that includes things lik...
No it directly addresses your error. The logic you are presenting has mischaracterized the argument. Prevention of suffering (and anything else, inclu...
Oh you're so clever :roll:. I just see your "problem" as almost nonsensical, so unresolved would not even apply. It doesn't matter that the parent has...
Oh, I really like that one! That is an interesting idea to explore- is OCD a maladaptive version of what might have been beneficial in the adaptionary...
And how is that not a case of the pot calling the kettle black? What do you think I have to do for just about every post you make which usually has so...
Why do you keep thinking insulting people is a good debate tactic. It just shows more of who you really are. It still doesn't matter if you are going ...
Does it matter if the person is conceived, gestated, born, aware, self-aware? At whatever stage you pick the formation of a "person" all the antinatal...
Ha, I would say we must separate personality-types from idiosyncratic and self-evaluated negative patterns. Someone like a Tesla for example was a bit...
Sometimes this can get quite severe..Think people like Howard Hughes. Let's take OCD again.. Imagine that every you did X arbitrary (but overvalued) t...
Well, I see this as an interesting thing to ponder if there is no scale of the universe. If one were to step out of the human or animal perspective th...
That's the point. What is the scale of the universe with no point of view? You only imagine your human perspective of large and small.. not the actual...
Yeah, I think checking the stove a few times is one thing- it's when it gets irrational. Checking the stove a couple times is still tied to some ratio...
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