Yes I am aware of all that. But what is the "super-natural" other than the longing for something different? Rather, all I am asking for is consolation...
Where the hell did you see me say that notion? If you read my profile I think quite the opposite of that. I suppose you have seen my profile. And if y...
Right.. then you try dealing with my arguments first ;). This is just a bad steelman/strawman. I am not talking about the debate about determinism, or...
So, Schopenhauer has a theory of Will whereby it operates in the negative. That is to say, for him, satisfaction is the freedom from pain, not the att...
This seems the foundation for Schopenhauer’s notion of compassion and thus the foundation of his ethics: https://iep.utm.edu/schopenh/#:~:text=The%20d...
As has been the case, I enjoy your posts more than most people who disagree with me. They seem the most informed, even if we disagree, allowing for mo...
It's not something we are "overly concerned about". It just "is" the case. I don't have to "add" anything to it. It's like the difference between "dem...
To lay out in its clearest terms: "We primarily don't operate by instinct like other animals and this makes us an animal apart from the others, even t...
First we must define suffering... Suffering as my profile already states (take a look I'm sure you've seen it) comes in the "inbuilt" and "contingent"...
I'm trying to say that there are various "coping mechanisms" that people use to ignore the notion of suffering in life, and thus the need for empathy ...
I'm not asking your opinion on "the will to live", rather I am pointing that you are questioning it. And even now, we can debate it, giving reasons fo...
Stories that become one's way of coping, I have deemed "delusions" but you can call it a number of things.. reasons, rationale.. etc. Either way, this...
You are questioning it right now. Isn't this your answer, the germination of which is in your very inquiry? Why is nature creating creatures that ques...
I would agree with this summary except the "heroically" part. We simply (must) bear it. Camus' hero is ironically a form of bad faith too. It is a for...
I have been summoned... I'll explain again.. I of course invite you to the countless threads on this subject that I have started/participated in but l...
I think Ligotti had a nice phrase that characterized the world as malignantly useless. When it’s supported by tons of tedium, self-awareness of the bu...
I don't know.. Warfare, torture, tribalism, narcissists, anti-social personalities, all of these things have been advantageous if we were to look at "...
The powers and growth of the executive branch over time. This started because a weak executive branch failed on various fronts. Also, arguably, it was...
Many of these were because of the failed government right after the Revolutionary War. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederati...
Yes, thank you for actually trying to analyze and parse out the arguments. I appreciate that, and now we can have a much more interesting discussion :...
So the initial asymmetry is presented by Benatar as the following: 3 the absence of pain is good, even if that good is not enjoyed by anyone; 4. the a...
Read this more carefully. Then re-read it. Make sure you can summarize the main points to yourself. Then when you answer, probably best to go paragrap...
Because I had a long post and you ignored it. Yes it's about suffering. Duh. But it's not suffering "tout court" in this case. It's about what surroun...
Way to ignore my whole post for making this (weak) rhetorical flourish :roll: I made a whole post, for the Nth TIME, laying out my case, in a pretty l...
Again, you have failed to interpret the arguments, by mischaritable reading or just outright failure to tackle what I am saying. You are now wearing o...
But a lot of people argue, oddly enough, passionately against AN as if it were being proposed as law. it seems to me, weirdly misplaced hostility. If ...
You're all missing the mark to some degree. The main argument is not about "How much suffering" per se. That can be a dimension, but only after the co...
Your definition of “just world” itself is an unfair game being that no one born agreed to it. If anything, that’s using people for an ends of whatever...
I guess it would be inner turmoil. The Logokon species is committed to truth, whatever that might be. They were conflicted as the Truth also meant the...
I've said this in other threads.. I don't think personal ethics translates to political actions. I think there is such things as ethics in politics, b...
No, that is misconstruing it again. "If I am not allowed to do something...". Well, of course what does that mean? Rather, you are not allowed to do s...
So again, let me do an archeological excavation of the conversation.. 1) We were discussing whether a positive ethic should override a negative ethic....
So you are not in disagreement, but yet you do disagree, because the example exemplifies my point, which again, you agree with. But no, you then say y...
First off, you didn't address my example. I take this that you don't have a good response? Second off, it's about the prohibition of positive ethics a...
Of course :up: Here is an extreme microcosm of what I mean about YOUR projects versus MY rights... Let us say there is one bridge that connects one pa...
Ok, but I am not arguing that one shouldn't provide ways to overcome obstacles or prepare children so.. Again at this point, child-rearing is remediat...
But that is a very uncharitable understanding, don't you think? It fits nice if you want to try to defeat the argument, sure. It's not that we have 'n...
So this is a great example of a positive ethic as opposed to a negative ethic. A positive ethic is one where you are supposedly obligated (or the best...
Huh? Why make strawmen? You don't "fix" a violation (non-harm, no autonomy) with another violation (non-autonomy at the least, and non-harm in certain...
Yes. So, as you just pointed out, life has a limited set of choices. We tend to look at life as the degrees of freedom of choice, rather than the degr...
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