Yeah I would say I'm more in line with the human-centric. Suffering takes on different characteristics in our distinct species, involving linguistical...
Yes that is a good summary of the standard Nietzschean parent stance. Sure, if the don't believe the reasoning, then they wouldn't follow it. But the ...
Fair enough. I will add that a world that is complete or nothing would be akin to perfection. This is getting a bit Platonic and Buddhist but if we ta...
Yes, this is a perfect example of the common Nietzschean narrative optimists tell each other. In a world where suffering is inescapable, the only way ...
I'd like to change the focus of the question. A life where one is dealing with overcoming the next thing. Is this right to give on behalf of someone e...
Indeed life is. From the outside its survival, comfort seeking, and finding entertainment. From the first person its dealing with situations. Dealing ...
I beg to differ. By default living requires survival, usually in a cultural milieu. Unless you practice suicide by asceticism (pace Schopenhauer)..tha...
With no explanation why, youre just saying meaningless things yourself. I've argued my point plenty. Just because you say something, doesnt make it tr...
It is benefitting others. Just not in the ways you find valid. So be it. It is about an evaluation of life, and the forced ideology when procreating s...
Maybe our definitions of force are different, but arguing for a position and enforcing something are two very different things and a misuse of languag...
Its not a wish for control. I am not forcing the stance, for the umpteenth time. It is up to the parents to decide to not have the child. Decide is th...
I'm using the definition of Philosophical Pessimism which means that life has an inherent suffering or negative aspect to it. Further, that these aspe...
Good points. I like the reference to industrialists and romanticists. In a way, that is a good analogy. The industrialists being those perpetual optim...
This all comes from a view that the individual doesn't "count" in some way. But as I stated earlier, whether or not there is really such thing as "ind...
Interesting. My claim was it is decided in the form of "Yes, it is worth it". But the pessimist might say, "Whoa, whoa.. hold on here. You've bypassed...
I am not saying it has to be valid for left/right. Rather, whether life is even worth starting for someone else is the more fundamental political ques...
There's a few ways to answer that. 1) Almost every adult knows the consequences of sex. 2) Abortion is an option, though people may not believe it is ...
No because they think that existence is generally worth existing for most people. They don't advocate abortion at all times. Something about existence...
Yeah, culture affects our modes of survival, comfort, entertainment. In the spirit of fairness and equality, even the "noble savage" of the primitive ...
Well-stated. I would just add that as far as I see, survival, comfort, and entertainment are the general categories of the striving. Within those, we ...
That's all that matters. No one else lives my life. Even if this was metaphysically true, it is not epistemologically so, so would not matter to the e...
Of course, someone will counter and say I don't mind encountering the trials, so surely others would not. 1) You cannot know if other people will like...
If awareness, connection, and collaboration was some sort of overarching principle, then trying to achieve this consciously would be simply the natura...
@"Brett" Is it what life is about here or what brings about "these actions"? I believe it the latter. Knowledge would be a strategy for survival. You ...
Schopenhauer would say that the "world" is built on striving-for-nothing, a principle when individuated through space/time/causality and the fourfold ...
Im not saying it is not a feature of the world, but rather explaining how people spin it as good, just like many other features. We can self reflect o...
I'll ask you a roundabout question. What happens if you don't like the things that you are supposed to like that are supposed to make life something l...
Life is about "dealing with". From a far away, neutral perspective, like in scientific circles, they may call it "survival". As it is carried out in t...
That's what matters. Ok, but I am not sure what you are getting at. If people looked to the authority of antinatalism, then that is what they do. You ...
But it's not forced. I never said it should be a view forced on people. Thus, they are not "deciding it". It's up to people's own individual decision....
But who says promoting these institutions is even ethical? It is forcing a way of life on a person and then hoping that enculturation will make people...
All the "ways of life" of a particular set of people that group together to survive, find comfort, and entertainment would be a society. The instituti...
Hmm, if that's the case, not sure. It could be that whole "microtubles" thing that physicists proposed a while back... like a hologram theory of mind ...
I think Deacon is trying to do that haha.. Let's see if he does. It's almost impossible not to probably. Perhaps panpsychism's insistence that the hom...
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