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Mentalese.

I reserve "upset" for a sort of distressed emotional state (not necessary a strong emotional state, but a distressed emotional state nonetheless). I'd...

Are you saying that the computer formulated a concept? (And so you believe that we've already created artificial consciousness?) Or are you meaning so...

Haha--ignore the question and pretend that I agreed with you. Nice tactic.

As you don't point out, but I keep asking you, what's an example of something that a computer does or has that's an abstraction?

If for anything, something preceded something else, then for everything, something must have preceded something else. Is that true?

There's no reason to believe that you are though. Again there's no reason to believe that one thing is primary over another. Believing that one thing ...

If you're worried about historical "coming into existence" positing something as primary doesn't solve anything. You still have the problem of that th...

I don't think the idea of having one "thing" be primary makes much sense anyway. I don't get the desire for that.

What you're thinking about there is perception and memory. What I'm talking about is thought itself, not what it's about re perception or memory. (I'm...

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Relations aren't the same thing as becoming. Imagine that there are two static things, A and B, situated in space. From reference point r, A is to the...

On my view being and becoming are the same thing. Being is becoming. Becoming is being. So it's not that one is primary, it's that they're the same th...

A combination of projection, arrogance and assumptions rooted in stance and disposition biases.

Yeah, the reason your writing is incomprehensible is because you're using words I don't know. Haha. That's just the same way the random pomo essay gen...

I didn't have many professors who gave bonus points for poetic bullshit. Did you go to UT Austin or New School or something? Who is giving you bonus p...

I wonder if you talk like that when you're just hanging out with friends and drinking beer or whatever.

Would you say it's a triadic system of constraints?

I'd rather have a conversation with you, so that when you write this: In response to me saying that I don't buy that there are real abstractions, we c...

That's the first problem we're having then--you're not simply reading the question and answering. You're trying to contextualize it into the "point" I...

First, do you understand that "real" in the sense I'm using refers to whether something is extramental or mental-only?

A real, concrete particular. What is an example of an abstraction you'd say that's in a computer? They do not occur in the extramental world. Of cours...

Sure. So how does that help the idea that computers somehow have real abstracts in them?

I don't agree with most of the theory about this,though, and Freud was particularly ridiculous in my view. Certainly there is propaganda and people ca...

There's no doubt that some people think I'm ugly. And surely some people don't mind or even like the smell of someone who hasn't showered in days and ...

On the other hand, some folks, some houses, etc. do stink and the people who smell that way or live in those houses don't seem to notice/care. You do ...

Yeah, they're not synonyms. But the "abstractions" circle is wholly in the "mentality" circle in a Venn diagram in my view. Obviously, I don't buy tha...

Abstractions being strictly mental, of course. Correcting someone re Hamlet's nationality would have to be with respect to what's written in the Shake...

My first question with that is "what, exactly, are we measuring--what are our instruments directed towards, when we measure the magnetic moment, and w...

According to Christopher Menzel via the Stanford Encyclopedia, combinatorialists hold that "an object exemplifying no properties, and . . . an unexemp...

A definite indication that I'm an animal.

First, pleasure vs suffering is a false dichotomy. There are a whole bunch of states in between those two--and beyond them I'd say. But even if you we...

If the latter is referring to what it really is that's there that's causing the "I'm looking at a red bottle" thought, then it's not phenomenal exoeri...

You're saying that you don't think of it so that it functions like type terms do, right?

It's the same thing for "that particular chair" at time T1 and T2. That functions as a type term in that situation. It's one term ranging over more th...

Re your choices, abstractionism would be closest to my view. However, I also do not understand combinatorialism very well. On my view, "possible world...

Phenomenal experience is thought, though--well, or mental content if "thought" is narrower than mental content in your usage, and present phenomenal e...

But that's what I'm answering! What makes it the same chair is simply whether we (individually) consider it the same chair per our concepts. In other ...

I misspelt some milk once. Every drop went into the cup.

I believe that that could happen, sure. As to whether it does in any particular cases, I'm more or less agnostic on that issue.

There are two ways to look at it, and I don't think that one way versus the other is the right way to look at it. One way to look at it is per logical...

A random event is an event that isn't determined by antecedents, because there's some degree of acausality involved in antecedents leading to the even...

Again, because it's the category of experience that we can't be mistaken about. Re you not considering it experience, I'm just curious what your narro...

My view is that re (a)--logical identity, that is, it's incorrect to say that something is logically identical at two different times. You agreed with...

I wasn't disagreeing with anything. I was just giving an example of a type of experience that we couldn't be mistaken about. Other folks started to ar...

Yeah, you could argue with me about what I should have posted about instead. That's one way to keep arguing instead of agreeing on anything.

The topic is whether we can be mistaken about our own experiences. I gave an example of a class of experiences that we can't be mistaken about--and in...

That's your explanation how that could be the case?

Right--you're supposed to explain how. The pink elephant phenomenal experience is present. So you could be mistaken that that experience is present be...

Well, so after clarifying this and giving you an example, etc., how about going back to what I requested from you earlier--give an example re how we c...