intrapersonaDecember 27, 2016 at 03:167175 views92 comments
I have seen it on other forums including philosophy forums. It enables people to know when their posts are useful, on point and provides feedback in a simple way. It encourages more postings IME.
They did have a thumbs up apparently, but scrapped it in a vote.
intrapersonaDecember 27, 2016 at 03:41#414440 likes
Reply to m-theory Whaaat? That is such bullshit. They used to have it on The PF before it went buggy. I would like to hear the arguments against it, cant think there would be any!
Another function to fuel pseudo philosophers' egos on a philosophy forum, just what we needed.
Naaaaah, as long as you have a downvote option as well. What really fuels ego is people tongue in check response and edgy attitudes that force people into want to "be right". A like option has fuck all to do with that.
I say keep the likes away from here. I agree with Reply to Thorongil, a voting system fucks everything up. It subconsciously influences people's decision-making.
If we have to bring back the like system, make it transparent so that only those receiving the likes are notified. Nobody really needs to know how popular an opinion is.
intrapersonaDecember 27, 2016 at 05:13#414550 likes
If we have to bring back the like system, make it transparent so that only those receiving the likes are notified. Nobody really needs to know how popular an opinion is.
It's more of a way to quickly tell someone:
Yes I agree with you
or
That was excellently written
intrapersonaDecember 27, 2016 at 05:16#414570 likes
A like system has fuck all to do with anything philosophy related, however. *shrug*
Yes it does. That is like saying the letter Z doesn't have anything to do with philosophy even though it used to say "zombie".
Likewise, if you have a philosophy forum that has a like option then that is part of a forum dedicated to philosophy and therefor has something TO DO with philosophy. Just like mouths have something to do with philosophy.
intrapersonaDecember 27, 2016 at 05:22#414580 likes
Trust me friends, don't knock it until you've tried it!
Reply to intrapersona
I agree with you because I feel this is more of social site than it is anything else.
But it is my understanding that the mods take the site more seriously and are trying to be an academic site.
Yeah, something that encourages more cliqueyness and herd conformity sounds like a great idea. Let's figure out some way to use peer pressure more effectively to avoid people saying things that we're uncomfortable with.
Terrapin StationDecember 27, 2016 at 13:48#415040 likes
Once "likes" reach a particular number, we could have a "circle-jerk seal of approval" icon.
If a user has a certain number of liked posts/threads that get the circle-jerk seal of approval, they could get an "in with the in crowd" icon on their personal page.
There IS a like facility: it is to write a post saying why you liked another post. Because this is a philosophy forum rather than a fan site, that second post needs to contain philosophical reasons why you found the post likeable, otherwise it may be deleted.
I don't see any good reason to provide a second like facility, especially one that contains no information beyond brute popularity. This forum is not The Bachelor.
What andrewk said. A post is less ambiguous. A downvote could mean a number of different things: 'badly written', 'I don't like you', 'I disagree with what you say but I like you anyway', 'you're a cunt', 'I downvote all your posts as a matter of policy because you are Mars Man' (I plead guilty to this one), 'I don't understand what you are trying to say', 'I am offended by this but don't understand that I should be reporting it as offensive rather than downvoting it' etc etc...
I personally have no objection to the occasional post with nothing in it except a thumbs-up in response to another post, but I wouldn't want to see it getting out of hand.
It is beneficial to any forum that people have different views. People nowdays start to "hang out" too much with people that share their views and values.
Trolls, flaming or absolute stupidities are there for the administrators to push out.
Unsurprisingly likes are wanted by those for whom the resposes of people are more interesting than the matters discussed, e.g. trolls and pop psychologists.
The creation of these discussions is practically inevitable, and there'll no doubt be more of them in future. Been there, done that. It's better without, in my opinion. (Although that hasn't always been my opinion. Last time I voted in favour, although I only did so because it was just likes and no dislikes - anyone who wants both likes and dislikes should bear in mind that that isn't currently a possibility anyway. It's either only likes or no likes). There seems to be a consensus against it, as there was the last time. And I'm content if the matter remains settled for the foreseeable future. But I don't think that it's that big a deal either way.
intrapersonaDecember 29, 2016 at 13:34#421440 likes
I have to say that though I spoke in favor of likes in the aforementioned post, I've actually grown used to not having them and like things as they are now.
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 04, 2017 at 14:21#441430 likes
Such a system would only be fair if mistakes were penalized, and authenticity, and justness rewarded... so, you know, if anyone besides me gets liked, then something is wrong with the world.
intrapersonaJanuary 05, 2017 at 02:17#443000 likes
Such a system would only be fair if mistakes were penalized, and authenticity, and justness rewarded... so, you know, if anyone besides me gets liked, then something is wrong with the world.
No point talking about it any more, 80% of people dislike it for absurd, irrational and blatantly stupid reasons of which I will not go in to, not because I am not intelligent enough... just because errr I dont have the time.
Spelldid, as in I done spelldid it damnit. It's Appalachian, coming from the overuse of the to do verb of the Celtic settlers I think. I done heard it plenty round here. It's also precious 3 year old speak. Any linguists here that can comment on this?
Both are common in British English, as reflected in dictionaries such as Oxford's, and to me "spelled" is better anyway.
That may be so, but after having gone through the results of a Google search, most of the results affirm that "misspelt" is the preference, or more appropriate, or more usual, in the UK, where it originates. It is also my preference; it just sounds better and more natural and appropriate to me.
Although, that said, I'm also rather fond of "spelldid". It reminds me of one of my favourite words: "happeded". As in, [I]"Dang it! It done happeded again! I done spelldid that there wurd wrongly!"[/I].
That may be so, but after having gone through the results of a Google search, most of the results affirm that "misspelt" is the preference, or more appropriate, or more usual, in the UK. It is also my preference, and it just sounds better and more natural and appropriate to me.
I don't agree that it's more appropriate, and otherwise what you're saying doesn't go against my point.
If not more appropriate, then preferable or usual.
More preferable, I suppose, for the people who prefer it. Even if "spelled" is less common than "spelt" in British English, it is common enough that it is not unconventional or non-standard. Similarly, "-ize" endings have become less common in British English but are still treated as standard British English by the Oxford and Collins dictionaries, in which "-ize" spellings appear first (see Oxford spelling).
As you can tell, I'm not letting this one go. X-)
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 15:32#455130 likes
Reply to Sapientia I don't have anything to do with this discussion. I didn't even read the banner. But to judge anyone against a bastard language called English is setting a pretty low bar. IMO
And why, pray tell, do you brand our esteemed mother tongue so?
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 16:16#455250 likes
Reply to Baden Wikipedia :
"English is a West Germanic language that originated from Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain in the 5th to 7th centuries AD by Germanic invaders and settlers from what is now northwest Germany, west Denmark and the Netherlands.
A significant influence on the shaping of Middle English came from contact with the North Germanic languages spoken by the Scandinavians who conquered and colonised parts of Britain during the 8th and 9th centuries; this contact led to much lexical borrowing and grammatical simplification."
"Another important influence came from the conquering Normans, who spoke a form of French called Old Norman, which in Britain developed into Anglo-Norman. "
"Who yo baby daddy?"
This I know. I suspect though your frustration stems not from a deficiency in our (presumably) common tongue (a whit of knowledge of linguistics would inform you that none of what you have copy-pasted above suggests one) but your own limitations in using it.
That may be so, but after having gone through the results of a Google search, most of the results affirm that "misspelt" is the preference, or more appropriate, or more usual, in the UK, where it originates. It is also my preference; it just sounds better and more natural and appropriate to me.
Writing out "spelt" in American English would be unusual, but I think "spelled" pronounced as "spelt" is more common.
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 16:39#455370 likes
Reply to Baden"This I know. I suspect..."
This seems heavily paradoxical philosophically. Either you "know" or you "suspect". Which is it?
The promiscuous nature of English is its strength. It can absorb and naturalize words from all over the globe without losing it's soul. It can put catsup on sushi, sugar on succotash, or sesame seed on salad and be perfectly appropriate.
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 16:45#455430 likes
Reply to Baden When you speak of "limitations" concerning a limited language then you weaken your own argument and your insults.
The "This" in the "This I know" bit referred to the information you copy-pasted above about the origins of English. The "suspect" in the second sentence referred to your reasons for using the pejorative "bastard" about English. In other words, I know about the origins of English, but I can't be sure of the reasons for your expressed dislike of it.
Do I have to quote Wikipedia to you to make you understand that English is no more a "limited" language than any other? In fact lexically, its multiple origins make it comparatively rich (as Bitter Crank mentioned).
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 16:49#455490 likes
Reply to Baden I understand NOW. You should have written your response with a little more clarification; obviously it was insufficient in conveying context.
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 16:50#455510 likes
Reply to Baden "its multiple origins make it comparatively rich."
A rich bastard then. Glad we're all agreed on everything my good man (or lady) and we can part company mutually enlightened by our brief encounter. :-*
Lower Case NUMBERSJanuary 09, 2017 at 17:08#455590 likes
Reply to Baden Brief but enjoyable and I look forward to the next jab countered by a linquistical knockout.
"my good man (or lady)"
You can call me "sir" to compliment by masculinity. What shall I call you?
Well thank you-that leaves me with an almost infinite choice of words. Allow me to browse but I must be perfectly honest. There are only a "limited"
range of words that I feel would do you justice.
I have seen some forums (fora? :B ) where there was the ability to "thank" a person for their post. Also, there was an indication of how many times a person "was thanked", and how many times they "thanked" someone else. I thought that is good way to go. But i know that the moderators can only make suggestions to the developers of this forum. But i really enjoy the format, appearance, and usability of this forum. Very enjoyable. Love the auto-save feature when writing posts, which prevents much aggravation when a long draft is lost. (L)
"I easily understood it the first time I read it, so perhaps the insufficiency lies elsewhere."
Did you now? Glad you chimed in to help save your friend but your come-back was "insufficient", transparent in motive and lacking in any poetic juice.. Try again.
A bather whose clothing was strewed
By winds that left her quite nude
Saw a man come along
And unless we are wrong
You expected this line to be lewd.
Yours could be a limerick, but the rhythm needs to be tightened up. The 'beat' or emphasis doesn't fall on the words naturally and there aren't enough syllables in some of the lines.
CHANGE
I easily understood it,
but I chose not to declare.
It's obvious enough,
and not very tough,
the failure lies elsewhere.
TO
Twas easy to grasp the small thought,
It's you whose thought comes to naught.
It's quite clear enough
that you're no word buff,
and your grammar is not up to snuff.
Oh, Limericks. I cannot resist carrying on the baton.
Ne'er was a thought more easy to grasp
'less your head be stuck up your ass
I'm sure my dear sir
You would duly concur
If out you could pull it at last!
I wrote this one, which was consistent with the theme of this thread, but I wasn't entirely happy with it:
There once was a young mod named Baden
Who never an argument he could win
He would cry and would shout
Would carry on all and about
That we all ever thought him a maiden.
I then wrote this one, which is consistent with the theme that is Hanover, so I'm more happy with it:
There once was a young lad name Baden
Who fought as he might to deny sin
But try as he may
He was simply born that way
So he wished Hanover were a maiden
Regardless of the end result, I'm pretty happy with the Baden/Maiden rhyme I discovered during this mid-afternoon time waste.
This forum of dry philosophs
pour their thoughts into a long trough
Where concepts dement and grow moss.
All sorts draw from these deep reserves:
Hogs, scholars, some rebels, our pervs.
Those who swill too much of our draughts
Often sound like wits sliced in halfs.
Above a Georgia attorney
a drone armed with chili con carne
took aim at a maiden’s target.
A command was sent from HQ
and the gut bomb landed so true.
But this was not final ending,
for no drones were now forfending.
Yes, well mine's unusual
I structured it that way knowingly
The rhythm is fine
In fact it's sublime
I'll-use-as-many-or-as-few-syllables-as-I
-damn-well-like, and don't tell me how to do poetry.
Terrapin StationJanuary 12, 2017 at 19:37#463270 likes
Comments (92)
Sorry I don't have a link to the post.
They are too blunt a facebooky instrument. How about 3 emoji that indicate:
want to vomit
don't give a rat's ass
thrilled to pieces
The old forum had a plus and minus members could click. Some liked it. Some didn't.
Naaaaah, as long as you have a downvote option as well. What really fuels ego is people tongue in check response and edgy attitudes that force people into want to "be right". A like option has fuck all to do with that.
Quoting Bitter Crank
Typical bitter crank, at least it would be better than nothing!
A like system has fuck all to do with anything philosophy related, however. *shrug*
That results in sheer abuse, as it did on the old forum. This better not turn into Reddit, which is an absolute pit.
If we have to bring back the like system, make it transparent so that only those receiving the likes are notified. Nobody really needs to know how popular an opinion is.
No I don't think so. People are not that bad come on...
It's more of a way to quickly tell someone:
Yes I agree with you
or
That was excellently written
Yes it does. That is like saying the letter Z doesn't have anything to do with philosophy even though it used to say "zombie".
Likewise, if you have a philosophy forum that has a like option then that is part of a forum dedicated to philosophy and therefor has something TO DO with philosophy. Just like mouths have something to do with philosophy.
My point was that we have and other websites have (like Reddit) and we don't like the results. I don't anyway.
I agree with you because I feel this is more of social site than it is anything else.
But it is my understanding that the mods take the site more seriously and are trying to be an academic site.
Yeah, something that encourages more cliqueyness and herd conformity sounds like a great idea. Let's figure out some way to use peer pressure more effectively to avoid people saying things that we're uncomfortable with.
If a user has a certain number of liked posts/threads that get the circle-jerk seal of approval, they could get an "in with the in crowd" icon on their personal page.
This issue has been dealt with here.
I don't see any good reason to provide a second like facility, especially one that contains no information beyond brute popularity. This forum is not The Bachelor.
Trolls, flaming or absolute stupidities are there for the administrators to push out.
Liking someone else's posts seems so interpersona. Perhaps you could just like your own posts instead?
(Y)
(Y)
(N)
I do like sniffing my own butt soooo...
(Y)
Trolling is a unique form of art.
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/24-pics-prove-ken-m-greatest-troll-internet
No point talking about it any more, 80% of people dislike it for absurd, irrational and blatantly stupid reasons of which I will not go in to, not because I am not intelligent enough... just because errr I dont have the time.
Passive agressive comments that display your psychopathic nature of wanting to murder annoying ppl.
Quoting intrapersona
You misspelled "people".
It's "misspelt" in British English.
(Y) (Y) (Y)
(Y) (Y) (Y)
1. Bent
2. Blest
3. Built
4. Burnt
5. Clapt
6. Cleft
7. Slept
8. Crept as in He crept into the crypt and crapt.
9. Dealt
10. Dreamt
11. Drest
12. Dwelt
13. Felt
14. Gilt
15. Girt
16. Kent
17. Knelt
18. Leant
19. Leapt
20. Learnt
21. Left
22. Lent
23. Lost
24. Meant
25. Pent
26. Reft
27. Rent
28. Sent
29. Shot
30. Slept
31. Slipt
32. Smelt
33. Spelt
34. Spent
35. Spilt
36. Spoilt
37. Stript
38. Vext
39. Wept
40. Went
That may be so, but after having gone through the results of a Google search, most of the results affirm that "misspelt" is the preference, or more appropriate, or more usual, in the UK, where it originates. It is also my preference; it just sounds better and more natural and appropriate to me.
Although, that said, I'm also rather fond of "spelldid". It reminds me of one of my favourite words: "happeded". As in, [I]"Dang it! It done happeded again! I done spelldid that there wurd wrongly!"[/I].
I don't agree that it's more appropriate, and otherwise what you're saying doesn't go against my point.
Also I'm not sure how to pronounce "happeded".
Meh. If not more appropriate, then preferable or usual. And as for your point, I kind of acknowledged it.
Quoting jamalrob
Well, it was coined by @Lower Case NUMBERS, so I guess you should ask him. :D
More preferable, I suppose, for the people who prefer it. Even if "spelled" is less common than "spelt" in British English, it is common enough that it is not unconventional or non-standard. Similarly, "-ize" endings have become less common in British English but are still treated as standard British English by the Oxford and Collins dictionaries, in which "-ize" spellings appear first (see Oxford spelling).
As you can tell, I'm not letting this one go. X-)
And why, pray tell, do you brand our esteemed mother tongue so?
"English is a West Germanic language that originated from Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain in the 5th to 7th centuries AD by Germanic invaders and settlers from what is now northwest Germany, west Denmark and the Netherlands.
A significant influence on the shaping of Middle English came from contact with the North Germanic languages spoken by the Scandinavians who conquered and colonised parts of Britain during the 8th and 9th centuries; this contact led to much lexical borrowing and grammatical simplification."
"Another important influence came from the conquering Normans, who spoke a form of French called Old Norman, which in Britain developed into Anglo-Norman. "
"Who yo baby daddy?"
This I know. I suspect though your frustration stems not from a deficiency in our (presumably) common tongue (a whit of knowledge of linguistics would inform you that none of what you have copy-pasted above suggests one) but your own limitations in using it.
Writing out "spelt" in American English would be unusual, but I think "spelled" pronounced as "spelt" is more common.
This seems heavily paradoxical philosophically. Either you "know" or you "suspect". Which is it?
The "This" in the "This I know" bit referred to the information you copy-pasted above about the origins of English. The "suspect" in the second sentence referred to your reasons for using the pejorative "bastard" about English. In other words, I know about the origins of English, but I can't be sure of the reasons for your expressed dislike of it.
Do I have to quote Wikipedia to you to make you understand that English is no more a "limited" language than any other? In fact lexically, its multiple origins make it comparatively rich (as Bitter Crank mentioned).
Like I said.....a bastard.
A rich bastard then. Glad we're all agreed on everything my good man (or lady) and we can part company mutually enlightened by our brief encounter. :-*
"my good man (or lady)"
You can call me "sir" to compliment by masculinity. What shall I call you?
You are indeed a master of linquistics, sir.
Quoting Lower Case NUMBERS
Anything but a bastard.
Good day to you!
"Anything but a bastard"
Well thank you-that leaves me with an almost infinite choice of words. Allow me to browse but I must be perfectly honest. There are only a "limited"
range of words that I feel would do you justice.
I have seen some forums (fora? :B ) where there was the ability to "thank" a person for their post. Also, there was an indication of how many times a person "was thanked", and how many times they "thanked" someone else. I thought that is good way to go. But i know that the moderators can only make suggestions to the developers of this forum. But i really enjoy the format, appearance, and usability of this forum. Very enjoyable. Love the auto-save feature when writing posts, which prevents much aggravation when a long draft is lost. (L)
Lol! Thanks. Humor is the social lubricant. And who doesn't enjoy a good lubricant now and then? :D
I easily understood it the first time I read it, so perhaps the insufficiency lies elsewhere.
"I easily understood it the first time I read it, so perhaps the insufficiency lies elsewhere."
Did you now? Glad you chimed in to help save your friend but your come-back was "insufficient", transparent in motive and lacking in any poetic juice.. Try again.
Okay.
How about this:
[i]I understood it
so the insufficiency
maybe lies elsewhere.[/I]
Or this:
[i]I easily understood it,
but I chose not to declare.
It's obvious enough,
and not very tough,
the failure lies elsewhere.[/I]
How's that for poetic juice?
A bather whose clothing was strewed
By winds that left her quite nude
Saw a man come along
And unless we are wrong
You expected this line to be lewd.
Yours could be a limerick, but the rhythm needs to be tightened up. The 'beat' or emphasis doesn't fall on the words naturally and there aren't enough syllables in some of the lines.
CHANGE
I easily understood it,
but I chose not to declare.
It's obvious enough,
and not very tough,
the failure lies elsewhere.
TO
Twas easy to grasp the small thought,
It's you whose thought comes to naught.
It's quite clear enough
that you're no word buff,
and your grammar is not up to snuff.
Oh, Limericks. I cannot resist carrying on the baton.
Ne'er was a thought more easy to grasp
'less your head be stuck up your ass
I'm sure my dear sir
You would duly concur
If out you could pull it at last!
There once was a young mod named Baden
Who never an argument he could win
He would cry and would shout
Would carry on all and about
That we all ever thought him a maiden.
I then wrote this one, which is consistent with the theme that is Hanover, so I'm more happy with it:
There once was a young lad name Baden
Who fought as he might to deny sin
But try as he may
He was simply born that way
So he wished Hanover were a maiden
Regardless of the end result, I'm pretty happy with the Baden/Maiden rhyme I discovered during this mid-afternoon time waste.
pour their thoughts into a long trough
Where concepts dement and grow moss.
All sorts draw from these deep reserves:
Hogs, scholars, some rebels, our pervs.
Those who swill too much of our draughts
Often sound like wits sliced in halfs.
a drone armed with chili con carne
took aim at a maiden’s target.
A command was sent from HQ
and the gut bomb landed so true.
But this was not final ending,
for no drones were now forfending.
A cultured and refined view you boast
I'll say with my thumb
That it's not that dumb
But I still deserved the most!
All ya'll yapping above
I got something I think you'll love
With ma hand naked
You know I don't fake it
Across your face with my glove.
That's great, Hanover. Love it. If I could offer but a mild critique by way of Limerick:
A wannabe poet called Hano'
Wished to go mano a mano
But his verse fell flat
As a runover cat
Or an ant on which fell a piano!
Attorney / Chili con carne. Lol.
Yes, well mine's unusual
I structured it that way knowingly
The rhythm is fine
In fact it's sublime
I'll-use-as-many-or-as-few-syllables-as-I
-damn-well-like, and don't tell me how to do poetry.
I misspelt some milk once. Every drop went into the cup.
I once ordered a mistake. But it was undercooked.