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Think of it this way: How would a change be temporally divisible?

As long as they're still alive we still accord the same degree of human rights, sure, but (1) You had been talking about personality, not human rights...

It's a specific part of the body--the brain functioning in particular ways, and yes, removal of some parts of a brain results in a diminished person.

The present is changes that are happening. If there's no change, there's no present. The past is changes that happened. The future is changes that wil...

Part of the change isn't the change. You'd need to specify some other change. You seem to be thinking of time as something other than specific, partic...

I don't want to say anything too cruel, but I'm not of the opinion that it would be my problem if it doesn't make sense to you.

No, relative to any change, there can't exist changes that haven't happened yet, and relative to any change, there can't still exist changes that happ...

So you'd say that you don't know how most folks' beliefs match up with academic analyses of the religion in question?

The change (A) would be in the past relative to some other change (B), when relative to that other change (B), change (A) happened but is no longer ha...

You don't have time if you don't have a change. So 9:31 isn't time. 9:31 changing to 9:32 is time.

9:31 isn't a change, is it?

What rigorous study were you using for most folks' religious beliefs adhering to academic analyses?

Just name any change--a clock moving from one state to another--say a digital clock changing numbers. I said any change counts.

Yeah, you are. Just via an informal survey of many different people.

Any change would do. To have time, period, you have to have a change. Change is what time is. Changes that are happening are the present. The scope of...

And you're committing the no true Scotsman fallacy there. Per that, maybe only a small percentage of folks would qualify as "true Buddhists" per your ...

Which just shows that you're completely ignorant about people I know and what their beliefs are, as well as people they know but who I don't know pers...

No, I'm not saying that. It's just that "value judgments" traditionally only refers to opinions re morals, aesthetics, tastes, preferences and the lik...

"Value judgments" usually denotes good/bad, right/wrong, worthwhile/waste-of-time, beautiful/ugly etc. etc. -type judgments, not true or false. Object...

Sounds more like Kurzweil simply thinking that it has to be done by then--he'll be 80/81.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msj_rM_1mgA

I never took it as a prescription, but as a description. The idea is both that nothing is "purely" x or y, and that the interplay of opposites or comp...

In my view you shouldn't spend your entire life pursuing something you don't have and which you're not sure you'll get unless the pursuit itself is wo...

Self-report about?

Becoming isn't at all distinct from being. Everything is in process, and process (change) is what time is.

It's as if you didn't at all realize that he said in and independent of something's present context. He in no way implied anything could be independen...

Hadn't really looked at this thread previously, and there's a ton to digest. At any rate: Doesn't the second paragraph posit a "single unique property...

Yeah, I have tons of beliefs. Just no beliefs that any religious claims are true. That could be handy if we could find surveys about atheists who are ...

A lot of religious believers--probably most of them--don't believe in a natural order in that sense. They believe that there are rules that govern mos...

I hope you weren't under the impression that I believe that you know what you're talking about.

I'd deny that there's a single Christian who doesn't believe in God. I consider that contradictory. Buddhists are more complicated. I'd agree that the...

I don't want to argue about every phrase in that post of yours--I wouldn't have left it at rolling my eyes if I'd wanted to do that. It's just somethi...

Sure, but once people have those experiences, it typically reinforces and strenghthens their beliefs. I was saying that not having those experiences c...

I don't believe that we know this, and I'm skeptical that we could know it. We could attempt a survey of religious believers, but the problem with tha...

It's would only be contradictory if one were to say both (A) "There is only the natural order. Nothing aside from the natural order is possible" and (...

I think it is really necessary if we're being reasonable.

One thing was, "You have enter into the mystery."

I'm agreeing with you for the most part. (It's important to not think that someone is arguing with you just because they're replying in an analytic wa...

It's difficult to have questionable research standards if there are no research standards. It's difficult to do bad science if there is no such thing ...

There's no paradox there, so no, I have no idea what you'd believe is the paradox.

In other words, T Clark pointing out that something is hard-wired has no impact on whether it's subjective rather than objective.

If only that were all you'd said.

What you'd have to do is show me well-done surveys demonstrating significant numbers of people who are clearly atheists but who are clearly also "spir...

No. That's incoherent nonsense. The present is comprised of the changes that are happening.

Time requires change, which can be a casual change, of course. If there's no change, there's no time.

I've just had to make an appointment with my ophthalmologist--that made my eyes roll completely around so many times.

I don't believe that. I can believe that there are some people who identify as atheists who would fit that description, but I don't believe there are ...

I agree with that, but as someone who doesn't have those sorts of experiences, that contributes to not being prone to those sorts of beliefs.

It seems like some sort of phenomenal experience that's often interpreted as religious experience is fairly common. But it also seems like something t...

That doesn't follow. The present IS a set of changes, a set of processes. That includes causal relationships.