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It's not objectively "seven marks"--that's a way of thinking about the marks.
February 16, 2019 at 00:33
I think I'm looking for the ought property.
February 16, 2019 at 00:30
Aren't you familiar with nominalism? No two numerically distinct things are identical. (Re there objectively being "seven" of something)
February 16, 2019 at 00:30
After decades of discussions with tens if not hundreds of different people about this, I'm desperate for anyone to actually provide the evidence they ...
February 16, 2019 at 00:29
No, I didn't say anything like that. It's subjective. Again, mathematics is NOT identical to any objective relations. I explicitly said that mathemati...
February 16, 2019 at 00:24
That's evidence of no kicked pups. It's not evidence of any mind-independent "ought" property. It seems as if you don't understand the distinction, bu...
February 16, 2019 at 00:22
In my view numbers, mathematical objects in general, do not occur mind-independently. I'm a nominalist in various senses, including that I reject the ...
February 16, 2019 at 00:21
It's neither true nor false. Truth value is a category error for moral claims. (See noncognitivism.)
February 16, 2019 at 00:18
I don't want to. This has nothing at all to do with what I want. It's simply a fact that moral properties or whatever we want to call them only occur ...
February 16, 2019 at 00:17
Moral claims aren't true or false.
February 16, 2019 at 00:13
Yes, when we're talking about objective color. That's the whole point of objectivity. Objective things are not at all dependent on anyone's judgment, ...
February 16, 2019 at 00:12
No, I'm saying its in the way electromagnetic radiation is reflected from the cup. How anyone judges a color is irrelevant to this. We can check the c...
February 16, 2019 at 00:10
Right, and if you feel compassion, and that's the sort of thing that we're talking about, then why is anyone arguing against these things being ways t...
February 16, 2019 at 00:08
You're saying the MORAL stuff is IN the broken pup. You're saying that it's not just a judgment that people make about the broken pup. So that's what ...
February 16, 2019 at 00:07
One person could say, "There's a broken pup. Producing broken pups is morally recommendable." Another could say, "There's a broken pup. Producing brok...
February 16, 2019 at 00:05
You're supposed to be providing EVIDENCE of the moral stuff occurring in the broken pup itself. Saying "you don't see the moral importance?" isn't pro...
February 16, 2019 at 00:03
"I prefer x" is not a statement of preference? LOL
February 16, 2019 at 00:02
Because it's just a broken pup and a crying child. It's not "It's good to have a broken pup" or "It's bad to have a broken pup" or "It's (morally) per...
February 15, 2019 at 23:56
You're arguing that it's not just preferences/feelings. It can't just be any old bullshit that won't be critically challenged. You have to be able to ...
February 15, 2019 at 23:35
It's more just annoying. I wish that one time someone who argues objective morality would follow through and present what they take to be evidence of ...
February 15, 2019 at 23:17
Yeah, big surprise that you'd bow out without being able to support your view. Unfortunately, that won't stop you from repeating the same vague nonsen...
February 15, 2019 at 22:10
We can detail what's going on objectively in a lot more detail, but you need to do that, too. First, you need to start by even settling on anything th...
February 15, 2019 at 22:08
What does that have to do with anything? Blue is an electromagnetic frequency. It's just like lightning is an electrical discharge between clouds and ...
February 15, 2019 at 22:05
That's what we're referring to with the term "blue"--light of that frequency.
February 15, 2019 at 21:23
Where's evidence of any moral properties there?
February 15, 2019 at 21:01
I haven't read any of Willow's posts in this thread. I'd have to go back and read them. But I'd at least disagree with the idea that biological sex is...
February 15, 2019 at 16:10
I'm not going to type thousands of words in one post to address a bunch of different points. One thing at a time. So from the beginning: I don't defin...
February 15, 2019 at 16:09
Hence why I wrote "(at least in the broader, conventional conversation in society)" Where am I doing anything like that? What I said was "People can f...
February 15, 2019 at 16:04
Re the first, I'd agree that wasn't done in the 18th century, but whenever I've been in court, there were restrictions on what people were allowed to ...
February 15, 2019 at 15:19
The way I know that is because of the way that I use the word "universe." There can't be multiple universes. Whatever exists is the universe. I'm not ...
February 15, 2019 at 15:05
No one (at least in the broader, conventional conversation in society) is claiming that. The whole idea is that gender is distinct from biological sex...
February 15, 2019 at 14:58
No, with no possibility otherwise on that one. But that's simply because I use the word "universe" to refer to "everything extant (present and past)."...
February 15, 2019 at 14:56
I'm a subjectivist on value judgments like good/evil.
February 15, 2019 at 14:52
What are you thinking we do as offensive speech-acts now that weren't done in the 1780s?
February 15, 2019 at 14:41
No one was saying to not create simulated whatevers. I'm an atheist. I don't believe any religious claims. I don't believe in anything "spiritual." I ...
February 15, 2019 at 14:33
Re the Prussian system, the article says, "At the same time, it also taught things like obedience, duty to country, and general ethics." That sure was...
February 15, 2019 at 14:05
Re the Canadian law you're referring to: (a) Long before this bill was introduced, the Canadian criminal code prohibited the promotion of genocide and...
February 15, 2019 at 14:00
It's not as if people didn't intentionally offend, insult, etc. others, that some didn't advocate controversial socio-political approaches, etc. in th...
February 15, 2019 at 13:30
That doesn't seem like a very good quantification method for something like complexity. I would think that first we should define how we're even using...
February 15, 2019 at 13:03
Seeing a bifurcation there seems like oversimplifying and cherry-picking to me. Not all art was focused on telling stories, etc. prior to the Enlighte...
February 15, 2019 at 13:02
How would you be quantifying complexity first off?
February 15, 2019 at 12:56
So then it would seem that one can, indeed, provide a definite answer.
February 15, 2019 at 12:54
Did I just provide a definite answer?
February 15, 2019 at 12:53
People think different things, obviously.
February 15, 2019 at 12:50
When there's no evidence for something, no particular reason to believe it over alternatives, I don't believe it. So my answer is, "No." If someone wa...
February 15, 2019 at 12:45
Well, I do agree with 1.3, simply because I believe that everything is dynamic. And I agree with 1.7 The rest either I disagree with or I think it's r...
February 15, 2019 at 12:30
What other?
February 15, 2019 at 12:25
Sure, but if social norms don't factor into it at all, why wouldn't any way you feel simply be what your biological sex is like?
February 15, 2019 at 12:23
But that's all I'm saying! So why would anyone be arguing otherwise? (Now it could be because of the word "judgment," but that's why I said "moral pro...
February 15, 2019 at 12:17
How do we get to needs that aren't dependent on wants? For example, you only need food and water if you want to stay alive. If you want to die via a h...
February 15, 2019 at 12:13