Until you're willing to address the universal nature of human psychological suffering I don't see the point of further exchanges on this particular to...
The entire structure of your arguments is built upon the very common assumption that our simplistic yes/no, either/or definition of existence is bindi...
Does space exist, or not, yes or no? Once you are willing to admit that none of us can firmly answer that question, you'll get that we are not require...
Again, the vast overwhelming majority of reality in the form of space suggests another option. Something which appears to fit neither our definition o...
I've tackled and crushed your points, but you're not ready to have them crushed. This is very very normal. You aren't really interested in the God top...
I prefer to pull the rug out from under the entire structure your arguments are built upon. If that doesn't interest you, ok, no problem, so continue ...
I'm telling you that the "exists or doesn't exist" paradigm at the heart of the God debate has a serious conflict with observations of the vast majori...
Ok, yes, in the realm of artificially constructed conceptual boundaries you can if you prefer will middle ground to vanish. Ignore the evidence provid...
Yes, those things within space can be said to fit the definition of existence for they have weight, mass, shape, size etc. Space itself has none of th...
A new term I made up for fun, Fundamentalist Agnostic. A Fundie Agnostic rejects not just particular positions within the God debate but the God debat...
This is a very common assumption which unites the vast majority of atheists and theists. This assumption is easily questioned by using the atheist pri...
PS: I respectfully ask members to please don't turn this thread in to a gun control debate. I've used that issue only as an example to illustrate that...
Please forgive this bump, have a new idea which I thought would be useful. As a quick review the premise of this thread is... NEW ARGUMENT: Let's cons...
Why is psychological suffering (ie. a shortage of personal peace leading to a shortage of social peace) a universal human condition in all times and p...
Yes, it is, sorry about that. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to challenge the group consensus, one of the more useful purposes of philosophy. T...
I cast my vote for this. Trump won't win, but the Democrats can be genius at defeating themselves. The next election is only 2 years away, and actuall...
Please provide the names of everyone who enjoys psychological suffering and wants theirs to continue. If you agree that psychological suffering is uni...
To clarify, I didn't say that all talk is pointless. Talking whose goal is to identify solutions, so that the discovered solutions can be implemented,...
It's difficult if we want it to be difficult, as we often do. Most expert commentators on these subjects want it to be difficult and complicated, beca...
If this were true, if these problems arise from bad thought content, then over thousands of years some group of people would have found the correct th...
The consequence of talking for the sake of talking is more talking. More talking is ok, I don't object to that. I'm just trying to strip away the illu...
She wanted to be anonymous. And she didn't request an FBI investigation for 35 years, thus, from her point of view, putting lots of other women at ris...
You need to stop claiming to be the morally superior holy roller expert on the subject, because you certainly are not. As example... She told her ther...
More lies from the rapist!!! :smile: I sure was your type that day on the beach!! Again, you have no leg to stand on here, because I am claiming to be...
Look Baden, Dr. Ford told her story to her congress woman at the time of the nomination. She didn't tell her priest, she told her congress woman. She ...
Like I said, you're getting carried away. I'm an upstanding citizen with no criminal record or other black marks against me, and I claim that Baden tr...
Making progress towards what? That's what I'm trying to help you clarify? Making progress towards more talk? Yes, that seems true. Making progress tow...
I am addressing your points. And please recall two things, we have the same goal, and I've invested a ton of my own personal time in serving as a poli...
Agreed. My point is only that many people have used religion for this purpose. Religion is probably the largest longest most organized system to addre...
Taking better care of our bodies is a place we can start. If we won't do even that, the rest of all this talk is probably just talk. Which is fine, bu...
Casting my vote for this. What seems to be under appreciated is that the #metoo movement, a very just cause, is threatened by sloppy standards and a r...
Ok, I'll work on that, been meaning to anyway. What I've said could be logically part of a solution IF.... .... you want a solution. As best I can tel...
This could be a very interesting thread of it's own. You know, the whole culture is moving steadily towards ever an deeper fantasy dream immersion wit...
I'm unclear of your meaning here. Are you saying your posts represent a search for ways to lead a more fulfilling life? Or, are you saying instead tha...
So far there doesn't appear any way of determining who is telling the truth. That may change, we'll see. Agreed. The Senate is free to reject Kavanaug...
Your honesty is refreshing, bravo for that. I don't know you or your situation, so all I can really comment on is what I'm hearing. What I'm hearing m...
A personal purpose can be any methodology which helps heal the illusion of division which is fundamental to the human experience. So for example, Chri...
Such a basis is survival. We're a social species, very few of us could survive on our own. A secular basis for morality is any set of rules which enha...
Yes, agreed. If you keep coughing like that it's going to lead directly to the immediate end of all life in the universe, and you'd better agree with ...
And the same can be said for some atheist ideologues. The mindset you are reasonably objecting to isn't a function of religion particularly, but the h...
The Catholics say that God is ever present in all times and places, which to my thinking is a claim that God is all of existence. But then they still ...
And it might also be good to consider whether what we perceive to be "other" actually exists. Well, consider as a first step, which may evolve in to e...
We can use reason to determine that we have no methodology proven to be capable of analyzing anything the scale of gods (should they exist). The God d...
Yes, agreed. Atheists might change their label to "Reasonists", a positive approach which can have value irregardless of one's relationship with relig...
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