Perhaps Frank's point was that we have little evidence in this thread that anyone is open to persuasion. And so it is in the Congress as well. Because...
Yes, that is pretty common on all philosophy forums. We should however observe that everybody has every right to manage their own forum in any manner ...
We don't have compelling evidence of the supernatural, but one need look no farther than the history of science to find compelling evidence of vast ig...
Many years ago I had an experience something like that. I was sleeping and was shaken wide awake by a voice which said only, "I am here" in a deep mas...
No, that's so very wrong. We in the Pervert Party have already taken over the White House, and now we are moving on the Supreme Court. And of course i...
Without realizing it, you've just made Ossipoff's point, which was... Praxis is right, we don't even know what "all of reality" refers to in even the ...
All this kind of logic dancing has been going on for at least the last 500 years, including by many brilliant minds, and still nobody on any side has ...
But we do have evidence. After thousands of years of investigation and dialog led by some of the best minds among us, we have compelling evidence that...
You might wish to read what Bitter Crank said a bit more carefully. :smile: That's not necessarily agreement with your position. Maybe it is, and he c...
If demolishing atheism is really what you want to explore, start a new thread making that explicit request. Or not, as you prefer, either way is ok wi...
It's just a matter of focus. What am I focusing my attention on in any given moment, the world beyond my nose, or the symbols within my mind? Most of ...
I didn't say you did. My point was that we shouldn't be expecting religion to deliver accurate facts about reality. That's the job of science. Religio...
Yes, I can. So can Pattern Chaser it appears. But we can't detach your self image from atheism. And if that is necessary, then nothing will be accompl...
That could be the wisest advice. If we are to proceed along these lines we should learn from S whether he would prefer his perspective be respected an...
Oh dear, I was with you until the last sentence. At least from the Fundie Agnostic perspective, the discovery of ignorance (on questions the scale of ...
Yes, there is a reason. Public atheism is a much younger enterprise than religion and has, generally speaking on average, not yet matured to the point...
Enthusiastically agree, except to quibble that we do have evidence. The best minds among us have conducted an extensive God debate inquiry over thousa...
A general comment upon the value of philosophy.... In most human situations it's common for there to be one or more memorized group consensus position...
You will find it exceedingly difficult to shoehorn me in to the God debate, should that be your goal here. :smile: My claim would be that it doesn't r...
Some of the ideological assertions of religion are probably best seen as simplified fiction used to teach sophisticated understandings to the widest p...
A few thoughts... 1) Religion is not science, but is better compared to art. As example, a play upon the stage can reveal deep truths about the human ...
Agreed. And it's equally true that a large segment of the population clings to certain atheist beliefs in an uncritical manner, through dogmatic faith...
Yes, adamant atheism is little more than a replication of some of the worst properties of religion, posed as a revolutionary new product. However, mos...
Religion is not science. Religion is not about facts about reality. This common misconception condemns most discussions of religion on philosophy foru...
We think, speak and act as if we were separate from nature because that's how we experience our existence. And that's just the beginning. We experienc...
Did you know that you can sue rich people and obtain large settlements if you win? I can assure you that nobody suing me is going to obtain a large se...
Hey, how about this? Why not stick this whole idea you have that you know what's going on and I don't up your bum? :smile: What's actually going on he...
We're talking past each other. You're intent on having a moral conversation, whereas I'm discussing tactical concerns. Anyone is entirely free to beli...
If these claims were being leveled against me, a total nobody, they would have far more credibility because nobody is going to get rich, famous, or ob...
I agree, and didn't claim that it was her fault. I'm making a TACTICAL argument, not a moral "who is to blame" argument. Apologies, but you're not act...
No, I don't, because there isn't any irony. Let's say that I make a very public claim for which I have little evidence. Such an unsupported claim woul...
You've been busy positioning yourself as an avid supporter of the metoo movement, whatever you're going to say about that. That's the bottom line unde...
I didn't reject her or her claim. I specifically said she sucks as a witness, because she can bring nothing to the table but a claim. My point is that...
Actually, the Jehovah character seems remarkably similar to nature. He's both a gloriously beautiful giver of life, and an utterly ruthless killer of ...
I don't fail to acknowledge this, and already have done so above. Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough. My theory is that thought has been evolving...
No problem, you're under no obligation to do so. I'm just suggesting that the universal nature of psychological suffering seems an important clue whic...
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