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God can make us Omniscient. Whether we can become Omnipresent is however the subject of discussion. That is a problem since there is no way to disting...

He either resurrected Himself or God did it. How could He resurrect Himself if He is dead? Therefore, it must be God who resurrected Jesus.

The data we can collect is the brain activity but not Qualia itself. I think it is feasible in the future to tell what sort of experience a person has...

How come? Morality cannot be objective if good and evil are subjective. That is my main point that is against Philosophim's argument.

Ok, here is my take on your argument: What do you mean by purely simple? Why an uncomposed thing must be purely simple? Correct if two beings are comp...

I don't think so when there is no verse from the Bible to justify this.

I say that we have the same experience when the features of our experiences are the same. We have the same experience of rose if the redness is simila...

We cannot do whatever we want because of social constraints. Social constraints are however based on what the majority agree on and this agreement is ...

Let's say that you are looking at a rose. You experience the rose. This experience, however, has different features like the redness of the rose, shap...

They are features of our feelings but they are not synonyms to feelings. No, good or evil could be right or wrong depending on the situation. Punishin...

No, I am saying that morality is not based on any moral facts since there is not any moral fact. Correct. We cannot justify any action if there is not...

Very correct.

I already mentioned that the Bible is not a reliable source for morality. You mentioned Ten Commandments and I mentioned Numbers 31:17-18. I have alre...

The Bible says that He resurrected and ascended to Heaven. I am not aware of any verse that says He became God.

How do you know that He became God after the resurrection?

Moral facts are required if we want to derive whether an act is right or wrong. How could morality be objective when there is no fact/right premise th...

Don't you see any contradiction in your conclusion?

Do you want me to give you an example of moral fact? How can I give you one when there is none?

So He was not God when He was human? Now you are saying that He resurrected and He was God.

Yes, somewhere in the Bible, ten Commandments, God says that you should not kill. In other places He says kill everybody but virgin girls who you shou...

What do you mean by making into God?

What do you mean by moral codes? I already defined moral facts in OP. By moral facts, I mean a set of facts that we can derive whether an act is right...

Cool. So we are on the same page.

How couldn't Jesus know that? He is God therefore omniscient.

Yes, we do not have a common conscience on many things. We also have a common conscience on many other things. How could you judge that an act is righ...

I don't think so. I think that question refers to a state of being abandoned by God.

I could not believe something contrary. I believe in all sorts of different things that I am not certain about but none of them are the contrary. Of c...

Jesus as human cannot be God because He is subject to change.

We say happiness and pleasure are good because we like them. Other feelings which we dislike I call evil. Cool. :) I defined what is good in my first ...

I have never said that there is a moral fact. Pain is a subjective experience so it could be good for a masochist and evil for normal people. Neither....

Oh, I was not aware of that passage. I used other verses to challenge Christians' views. I discussed this topic with believers elsewhere to death. As ...

I disagree. Good is just a feature of our experience. Correct. Morality is a method of finding what is right and wrong. I don't think so. Morality is ...

God cannot change therefore Jesus is not God.

Are you looking for a definition of moral fact? I defined it in OP. Think of pain that is evil. That is a sign of injury in your body. You look for a ...

I already answered that. It is contrary that God/Jesus is changeable and changeless simultaneously. Even if we accept this, according to the Bible God...

I think you are talking about the conscience that the majority of people agree with it. The conscience is however not a fact. Some believers think oth...

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There are different branches of Christianity. There are genuine Christians. Maybe. I am not. Of course not. How could I believe something contrary?

I want to discuss two things: 1) Morality is not objective and 2) Believing in god does not resolve moral conflicts.

I think all Christians believe that this verse is not a metaphor. They believe that Jesus died on the Cross and rose from death. This verse together w...

My point was the love of parents for their children is not affected by whether their children are ugly or disable. A disable child is disable and cann...

No, I am not saying that. Again, God's intervention is not the subject of this thread.

No, it does not sound so.

Perhaps, He was experiencing the Father within Him. Most scholars think that this verse together with others is an indication that God is trion.

Yes, there is a verse in the Bible. John 14:11: Believe me, when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me...

That is not the point of my discussion in this thread. I am arguing that humans can also know moral facts if there are any known by God. Anyhow I thin...

Thanks for sharing the link. I will read it when I have time.

He makes rules either based on His nature or based on moral facts. God is accepted to be a moral agent at least within believers. Is God a moral agent...

That is just a definition. Good and evil are features of our experiences and they are both necessary. Feelings together with reasons, teaching, etc. a...

God/Jesus cannot be both changeless and changeable simultaneously. Even if we accept that He cannot change His nature and become changeable only (Mala...