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He knows wrong and right based on what? His nature? Of course, He cannot decide about what is wrong or right. God either acts based on His nature or b...

I disagree with many of your statements some of these disagreements are because of the different definitions I use. First, good and evil are features ...

I think we intellectually and linguistically evolved well enough to find out a moral fact if there is any. In the end, a moral fact is nothing but a c...

Yes, that is my point. But God cannot incarnate since that requires a change in His nature.

Whatever the nature of God/Jesus is it cannot change.

There are two things to consider: 1) God's nature does not change and 2) Jesus's incarnation requires a change. Therefore, we are having a problem. Je...

Why yes? You brought the idea so the burden is on you to explain what you mean by it.

We have unconditional love, like the love of parents, and conditional love. By the way, welcome to the forum! :)

Saying that it is an extraordinary process does not resolve the problem!

Because Kenosis requires a change in God's nature.

I think those verses refer to God's/Jesus's nature which is contrary to Kenosis.

Don't you think that the parents believe that their child is disable yet they love him/her?

Malachi 3:6 I am the Lord, I change not..., 1 Samuel 15:29: God is unchanging, Isaiah 46:9-11: God is unchanging, and Ezekiel 24:14: God is unchanging...

But that is against the concept of the Trinity. There are several verses in the Bible mentioning that God does not change.

Do you have any verse from the Bible that supports Kenosis?

But elsewhere He mentioned in John 14:11: Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. He is saying that Father and Him are ...

I wish you a fruitful endeavor!

Good luck to you too. :)

I am done with you!

There is nothing that you can do for you anymore if you don't want to read the articles published on the topic.

I am not talking about Google but scientific articles published that you can find using Googling. Do you believe in science?

If you spent a little time googling then you could find many scientific articles on the topic.

Don't parents of a disabled child love him/her?

There are no problems here. You can google it yourself. Yes. It could be lighter or darker though. Yes.

That is against John 14:10: Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? Even if we accept that interpretation then we still have...

Yes, very true. That is a good one too. People do that when some verse in scripture does not make sense!

What do you mean by He abandoned himself? He is God so He should know why He has to suffer and die on the Cross. Shouldn't He? Oh, I didn't know that ...

I already mentioned that one can create the hallucination of seeing red by stimulating a person's visual cortex with the electromagnetic field. Theref...

Do you believe in science? If yes, there are scientific reasons why Earth is round.

Correct. Parents love their children whether they are beautiful or ugly. The same applies to those who adopt a pet. I think they mix love, affection, ...

Let me give you an example to see if we can agree with the definitions: A Bulldog is ugly but one can like it. The ugliness is intrinsic and the like ...

This is already demonstrated to you.

There is no way to be certain that Earth is round if you are very skeptical!

Couldn't we agree that red rose is not red but it just looks red?

Beauty and ugliness are objective as I argued in OP. Like and dislike are subjective though.

I think we are on the same page if you agree that a red rose is not red. By this, I mean that redness is not a property of a rose.

Yes, a red rose has a set of properties that make it look red. A red rose absorbs all the color from the light and reflects red light. Red light howev...

I think we have two things here, 1) Beauty and ugliness, and 2) Like and dislike. To me, beauty and ugliness are intrinsic features of an object where...

I agree with most of your statements that beauty is a sign of a better life that helps us to survive and evolve better. Women have larger hips and tha...

No, the color you experience depends on your sensory system, your eyes in this case, and how neurons are connected in your visual cortex. No, I have n...

No, the redness of the rose is constructed by your brain. The flower does not have any particular color at all so it is just the feature of your exper...

I already argued for beauty and ugliness to be an intrinsic feature of experience in OP so they are objective (person-independent). What is left are l...

I think that attractiveness is the extrinsic feature of the experience whereas handsomeness is the intrinsic one.

You have the experience of a red rose when you are looking at one. The experience is gone if redness and other features of your Qualia are gone.

Experience and Qualia are inseparable. It is not correct to say that the experience comes first and the Qualia comes after.

Just no. Could you have any experience without Qualia?

I don't have any problem with it either! :razz: I don't think so. The features of our experience are either intrinsic or extrinsic. They are. No, I am...

Of course, any experience has a set of properties, so-called Qualia.