Fire Ologist

Really great piece of work here. Well-written, substantive, and intriguing to me. I don't have any deep criticism to offer (but have some thoughts bel...

I think your nephew makes Socrates sound like a moron.

One could say, if we want to say what we are doing is philosophy, if we want to label it ‘philosophy’, we must do better. But, I see the more substant...

So would you still have to say?:

So wouldn’t one have to do some philosophical work before one could draw that conclusion? Could you be wrong here, and there is some degree of philoso...

Good one, although I’d say blue represents the input, yellow represents the processing, and green represents the output…It could work. That is a quest...

How will time end? Will it? I see time-space-matter-motion as aspects or points of view that are all the case now that there is more than one thing. M...

I found it pleasing how well the analogy captures sense perception, and, I think, Kant’s observation. I also find it interesting how the picture of su...

Intelligence functions = yellow. Representations = green. Things as such = blue. Still no?

The analogy to sensation is one thing, and the colors represent the things of sensation. The analogy to Kant is taken as another thing entirely. So if...

Isn’t all of that off topic? That’s psychology that can apply to any type of philosopher or non-philosopher. ——- I think he shows what he sees as most...

As an analogy to Kant: How does it not work? Upset all apples and carts. Why wouldn’t Kant agree we live in green world, behind the phenomenal veil th...

Also beautiful. The fact that what you just said is the case, and I think it is, means to me that the qualitative difference between what the analytic...

Beautiful. Shining. Previously, the two moments seem to have been tagged thinking well, and making shite up.

If we do. But once we do, aside from tons of interesting differences, my sense is they will have to have the same ultimate questions and problems with...

Always. The ways to philosophize thread(s) seem to be about one way to be clear and precise. But always hoping for clarity. Either the analogy works t...

Yes, good catch. So I think the he analogy is a useful tool when describing sensation best. I lumped all of the senses in as yellow to make it most ge...

That sounds like Hegel again. So maybe I need to rethink my sense that the analogy can’t help an understanding of dialectic. Sounds like we need a fou...

You sound like me. If I knew what I was talking about and read about it. Love it (and wish it wasn’t all true - although I have to look up some of the...

Can we use the analogy to help understand the concept of the whole being greater than the sum of parts? A man is a whole. His brain and his liver are ...

Much appreciated. Just trying to engage, see if I could learn anything useful. I’ve been forced out of the neighborhood at this point. Like an undocum...

Man, woman and child. Let's see. Seems like the child has to be green, so we can make the man or woman, each either blue or yellow. I guess what is od...

Got it. I’m firing off a few, what I think are, sufficiently pared down ideas, hoping maybe one will stick. So, ignore what I just said. All I’m sayin...

I'm saying, we are both expressly saying "language about language" and both saying things about this like "essential tool" and "clearly scientific" wh...

The US Supreme Court just issued a ruling dealing with free speech and laws that can limit it. It can be found here: https://www.documentcloud.org/doc...

Appreciate the attempt at penetrating my thick skull. See, I think I’m following you and can just say “I agree”. And be done. But I also think if I re...

Thanks for something. Ok, fair. Hence my neighborhood analogy. I’m looking to see if I’m in the neighborhood as opposed to at a specific address, or s...

You don’t have to answer the question, but could explain why it will not be answered, why it should be ignored. Ok, ok. Fine. I’ll “do better” without...

That sounds good in theory, but how does it play out to the person interested in making progress? For instance, doesn’t that mean telling a politician...

Dissecting, analytic, rigorous, scientific philosophy. Discursive, narrative, not as scientific (or at all scientific) philosophy. ADDED: Instead of a...

Let me put the question more rigorously (I slipped into metaphorical speak feeling the use of “plumbing” gave me some leeway. I like the language plum...

And what does the honest philosopher (language plumber) think politics is? Total bullshit? Totally kidding ourselves about “natural” rights and platfo...

That is a much more succinct, and so better, way of saying the key takeaways I was trying say. :up:

Hi Pieter, Welcome. We all see what you are asking, but each word is important to the philosopher. You are making leaps without showing the logic and ...

I like that. I’d say, mystically, human beings are the moral fact in the universe. Conscience is a sui generis, aspect of human being that exists nowh...

I agree. Philosophy is a rigorous science. Has been since Aristotle at least. Because everyone at some point wonders “what is this life?” everyone thi...

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It is difficult to even recognize and discover a truth about the world; it is harder than that to say it truly. Working through the article. Here are ...

3 distinctions to grapple with? 1. Language, 2. the world to which language is applied, in a 3. language game. Or This sounds like using language itse...

This has great moving parts: theorizing with rigour. Promising. ‘Mere anecdote or, rigorous metaphysics and “systematic philosophic theorizing”. Philo...

I think I see. And thanks for the reply. Language itself is not the game. Interesting. Because “a language game involves more than just language.” Doe...

I’m am trying to salvage dialogue. I pointed out from the beginning, we need to identify something whole before we have something to divide, we need b...

These two come off as contradictory: 1. There are only blocks within the game of building. 2. There is more than language; there certainly are blocks....

No that’s wrong. :razz: It’s how ‘dead’ can coherently be used when referring to this thread.

:grin: Nicely done. Banno killed the thread. And like rigor mortis, I just wouldn’t stop. Up for an autopsy?

I agree. That is the important contribution of the analytic school to the philosophic enterprise. Rigor. Added: Precision. And so clarity.

We have to go out of our way to show compassion on a message board. I’ve said multiple times in here and otherwise that I respect Banno and this and o...

You are misreading the situation. Easy to do on an online forum.

Describes half of this thread. Yes, please. To no end. I am beginning to think that as soon as they see an end in sight, they feel the need to back tr...

Good. Yes. I was playing language police. This isn’t just about language. Yes. We all need to recognize “since no one ever” about the world, in order ...