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We know that: 1. “The object is simple” (2.02) Wittgenstein’s claim that objects must be simple stems from 2.021 when he says: 2. “Objects form the su...
March 23, 2024 at 19:35
Here, I think we should be careful. The logical positivism of someone like Carnap or Neurath, and the logical atomism of someone like Russell was deve...
March 23, 2024 at 17:38
As Wittgenstein once said: “All philosophy is Critique of language” (4.0031). I would be willing to ascribe consciousness to a sponge, just not the sa...
March 23, 2024 at 17:21
Correct. I merely wanted to try and remind you that Wittgenstein wrote the work during a time when it was, actually, quite normal to consider logicall...
March 23, 2024 at 17:07
I take 2.0211 and 2.061 to speak against this: “If the world had no substance, then whether a proposition had sense would depend on whether another pr...
March 23, 2024 at 16:42
They prefer to be called frontally incapable, I believe :p But, my point is I don't know how to answer your question. If you're asking, "Are people th...
March 22, 2024 at 01:17
Well put. How we are to understand "form" and "content" exactly, however, is still somewhat unclear, but I think you're on the right track by tying it...
March 22, 2024 at 00:58
I agree with this; its a good point.
March 22, 2024 at 00:49
Frege was originally a mathematician, so his approach stems from that. When he began analyzing language, the tradition had always been to follow Arist...
March 22, 2024 at 00:41
I don't believe that they are the same in the Tractatus. Wittgenstein says: "Language disguises the thought; so that from the external form of the clo...
March 22, 2024 at 00:23
I don't actually take this to be entirely true. Wittgenstein is clearly writing within a tradition, and what I mean is I don't believe it was written ...
March 21, 2024 at 02:11
How about in an instance where we have two individuals: Tim and Nancy. Both recently awoke in the hospital after major surgery. Tim had triple bypass ...
March 21, 2024 at 00:05
I Wouldn't say we are using 'conscious' in the same sense in the two sentences: "Tim is conscious and in the hospital" and "Human's are conscious due ...
March 20, 2024 at 23:54
I don't think that this is necessarily a bug, as much as a feature. Part of the work seems to be dealing with the idea that the meaning of a word or p...
March 20, 2024 at 23:47
What do you mean by: ?
March 20, 2024 at 23:39
That there is a distinction between the form of a proposition and the logical form of a proposition. The form of a proposition, which re-presents real...
March 20, 2024 at 23:26
I believe that "consciousness" is a spectrum of capabilities. When we use the expression, we are using it in a manner which is influenced by our own c...
March 20, 2024 at 22:40
I don't believe so. I think that, perhaps, Wittgenstein started with what was most accessible to him during the war, namely his thoughts. So he begins...
March 20, 2024 at 22:30
As you point out, every physical object is a complex. If I'm understanding you correctly, I take this to mean that what we might call "classical objec...
March 20, 2024 at 22:19
I would say this is generally true of adherents :P I've never met a Kantian that thinks Kant is wrong, or a Humean that thinks Hume is wrong. lol I'd ...
March 20, 2024 at 22:08
As you pointed out, there seems to be a clear distinction here regarding on the one hand 1. acts governed by instinct and 2. acts governed by expectat...
March 20, 2024 at 22:04
Nicely put :) I agree with this, too.
March 20, 2024 at 21:27
I agree with everything up until the last point, and not for a technical reason, but perhaps due to phrasing. I believe that you are right, Wittgenste...
March 20, 2024 at 21:21
I think it can be seen in how the text uses the terms that it employs. I can see many places which seem to confirm this. I'm sorry, I don't completely...
March 20, 2024 at 21:12
Awesome! Thank you! Fooloso, you say: Because: Truthfully, this is something I was uncertain of when I was typing it up, originally....yet I think tha...
March 18, 2024 at 22:14
Okay, I started something: here
March 18, 2024 at 20:19
Do you have something in mind for this specifically, or would it be alright if I tried typing up a thread? I say this because I was working through th...
March 18, 2024 at 19:10
Yes, I'd also think this analyzes into aRb, in which case, if I'm understanding correctly, "a" and "b" would be our objects with R just being a possib...
March 17, 2024 at 02:41
I am saying: 1. Fact can either be the case or not be the case. In the event that it is the case, a certain set of atomic facts obtain. In the event o...
March 16, 2024 at 21:40
I believe that you are, my friend. Please tell me to what the expression "Any one" in 1.21 is referencing? Any what?
March 16, 2024 at 21:31
It's not a misquote. The quote is: "Any one can either be the case or not be the case, and everything else remain the same" (1.21). Any one here is in...
March 16, 2024 at 21:27
" can either be the case or not be the case, and everything else remain the same" (1.21.)
March 16, 2024 at 21:21
What do you mean by "false fact"? When I say: I mean to say, a fact can either be the case, or not the case.
March 16, 2024 at 21:16
Just a bit of nit-picking for consistency's sake. The logical form of a true or a false proposition shares the same logical form as that of a fact; As...
March 16, 2024 at 20:40
I believe that you're right, that this is what Witt was struggling with in the notebooks, at times. You point that out, rightly - it's a main componen...
March 16, 2024 at 17:52
This is why we do philosophy, after all. :) So, we know that facts/propositions are analyzed into atomic facts/elementary propositions. Regarding thei...
March 16, 2024 at 17:02
Two things: 1. I don't believe that this is how analysis works for Wittgenstein. Analysis yields atomic propositions, which are objects. "Man is a man...
March 15, 2024 at 13:19
This is interesting. I actually share this view, although I will admit that I am far more knowledgeable about the Tractatus. But, from what I have rea...
March 14, 2024 at 23:05
Okay.
March 14, 2024 at 22:42
1. How does "being free" entail the ability to "shut off all of senses" 2. How does "being free" entail that "killing ...not possible"? Many people do...
March 14, 2024 at 22:40
Norman Malcolm asked Wittgenstein for an example of a simple object, and he records Witt's response in his memoir. "I asked Wittgenstein whether when ...
March 14, 2024 at 22:20
If I reformulate your three points as: 1.) If we do not have knowledge then we can not act freely since knowledge is a prerequisite to acting freely (...
March 14, 2024 at 22:10
Notice in your quote: Those are objects "in the original sense" i.e. these are complex entities which we normally refer to as objects. These are not o...
March 14, 2024 at 21:37
I agree with Sam..."Plato" is not a simple object. Plato is a complex entity which we can define by appealing to many different aspects of his existen...
March 14, 2024 at 21:14
You quote 2.0231, but let's look at the entire quote: "The substance of the world can only determine a form and not any material properties. For these...
March 14, 2024 at 20:37
I'm sorry, I don't entirely follow. To my understanding, the Tractatus essentially sets up an isomorphism between thought, language, and possible/actu...
March 13, 2024 at 23:03
It is composite. The ball is not a wittgensteinian object. It is made up of Wittgensteinian objects. That's what I said. are objects.
March 13, 2024 at 20:39
While I believe that a lot of what you said is true, I don't believe that its exhaustive of Witt's view in the Tractatus. In a sense, an object is bot...
March 13, 2024 at 19:47
This is a good write up, and I think you're on to something. I think that Witt's concept of object is heavily influenced by Russell, and Russell was h...
March 13, 2024 at 11:18
I think that you're on to something. From my limited understanding of Kant, and as you pointed out, the intellect or understanding provides concepts a...
March 07, 2024 at 03:27