Leontiskos

Yes, that's a good point. Your emphasis on weighting different parts of the canon is edifying and intuitive. I was aware that such is a traditional He...

- I think you're reading a lot of things between the lines that aren't there at all. For example: Where does Barron claim that power supersedes truth ...

True, and that seems to be one of the elephants in the room. I wonder if any within this thread would say that wokeness never got off the rails?

I want to say that causality is not physical because causality is a principle and principles are not physical. Or else negatively, because that which ...

Another problem is that many of the woke claim that everything is just a power game, a jockeying for power. The wokeness of such a person is apparentl...

The Philosophical Roots of Wokeism with Bishop Robert Barron

The cause is in question because this is a thread about causality. We are not talking about ?-temperature. We are talking about causality. So to talk ...

- Good. I mostly think they couldn't. They might not use the word "energy," but the words they would use would mean the same thing as energy. But ener...

There are a lot of assumptions here, but let's take a step back. You are saying, "?-temperature caused the water to freeze." So even if we grant for t...

Well look at your own examples. Are you claiming that a temperature reduction is physical? Or that corrosion is physical? Or taking my own examples, a...

I agree, and I still find the article I mentioned here useful: - Interesting. I don't really disagree with any of that, but I want to say that the pro...

Right. :up: I tried to delve into this sort of issue in fdrake's thread. I'm not really convinced an overly rational account of what wokeism is reacti...

I think this is a central point, and I would just say that causation is not physical. I am surprised to see that there are a lot of claims within this...

Well, there was no "anti-woke crowd" before wokeness, and wokeness ironically created much of the sentiment that it claimed to oppose, such as racism....

This is an interesting and thoughtful essay. :up: I wonder if you would be willing to provide a rough bibliography for your ideas?

Elaborating on this a bit, the coercion engaged by woke culture and the left in general has to do with manipulation of the Overton window. The natural...

You are conflating better simpliciter with better qua art. Someone who desires art will hold that what is more artistic is better than what is less ar...

- Excellent OP. :up:

- Great post. :up:

- Yes, I think that's right. :up:

Hmm, okay. But isn't it curious that in R I said "better (or more artistic)," and in your own posts you recognize that some art is more artistic? Usua...

I think that hones in on the political sophistry or equivocation involved, which I pointed to in my . It is this: when one talks about "gun control," ...

Okay, that's a reasonable answer. Would it then follow that if we have a prepared food that is not art, and then someone adds salt to make it taste be...

Okay, well it is promising that we both at least hold to P and Q. :up: I worry that this isn't a real attempt at a definition, on account of the possi...

I definitely agree. It's also worth thinking about the way in which "morality from on high" is doomed from the start. For example, suppose the beliefs...

But aren't Aristotle's four causes attempting to answer questions such as, "Why a duck?" The explanation for a duck will presumably include why it is ...

Doesn't causation just explain the "why" of some event or substance? We usually think in terms of efficient causation, in which one is identifying the...

Good points, and I think that if we want to look at the foundations of what is happening with wokeness we will find that it stems from a morally robus...

Egalitarian-relativism is actually somewhat common on TPF. @"J" often promotes it in the field of epistemology, and recently gave an unanswered argume...

If art is meant for aesthetic experience or aesthetic encounter, then the modulation of one's mood is beside the telos of art. So if someone says, "I ...

Just noticed that this article was published the same day as your OP: Teleology: What Is It Good For?, by John O'Callaghan

Okay, good. That is the sort of claim I was wondering about, and it relates to my "caveat" above. I can definitely see merit in such a claim, and if t...

Sure, and that seems uncontroversial. But is that which is structured by affective realities durable? Are affectively grounded systems ever more than ...

- Yes, that's fair. Government subsidies and large scale "agribusiness" have changed things a bit.

- I agree in large part, but note that 's whole argument revolves around a homicide chart, and 's whole argument revolves around a statistic about dea...

Do you know many farmers? In my experience I don't think that they are quick to adopt new technologies. They are open to the idea, but tend to move sl...

Great posts and thoughts. What would you say to the objection which says that wokeness is a transitory phenomenon? That given its affective character ...

I think there is an even simpler explanation available. It is that agricultural work is inherently conservative. It relies on stability, predictable p...

I think you are placing too much faith in contextless statistics and relying on implausible premises such as this: On an individualistic and historica...

Spoken like someone who is adamantly opposed to argument. I.e., like Banno.

At least in our very contingent historical moment. But when an argument is based in a very contingent historical moment, it tends to lack depth. After...

It may be worth pointing out that recognizing that art is an end in itself does answer this current question of "use", but it does not provide the ess...

Psychosis? Madness? Pathology? I would appreciate it if the mods would consider the way that Banno consistently responds with unapologetic bigotry and...

Yes, but this is a very individualistic assessment. It's a bit like saying, "The class which is most likely to die in gun-related incidents is police ...

No, I was thinking of offering a reductio ad absurdum against the argument, but it looks as though you agree that killing with indirect intention is n...

But do you understand your own arguments here? Again and again you are saying, "The coercion is justified." You are free to make such arguments, but t...

It's the simple fact that the head of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation is doing stuff like that. Obviously Rogan has nothing to fear. "...provi...

Although it's hard to see the water you swim in, the freedom of the press in Australia is not great. For example, that Kim Williams, the chair of the ...

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I think this is the conclusion of the arguments he is proposing: What is at stake in the arguments is justice, not the compatibility of canonical text...