Again, if you think the T in JTB can be known apart from the J and the B then you have rejected the JTB account. You have claimed that there is knowle...
I continue to think that modus ponens is always operating metalogically: Which was this: The most obvious problem is that you seem to be misrepresenti...
This is correct, and it is the crux. Someone like @"J" thinks that for every proposition or claim, we know that it could be false (and therefore we ca...
Well we could ask whether the 'T' in JTB is "accessible" truth or "inaccessible" truth. Isn't it pretty obvious that it is "accessible" truth? Or is t...
Right, but over and over I have been inquiring into whether there is anything other than IBEs, and over and over you keep shying away from that point....
No, that's not right. JTB is not meant to provide you with a recipe for knowledge-cakes. JTB is a descriptive theory, not a normative theory. It is so...
The problem is that you want to make sound justification and unsound justification identical, as if they were the same thing, as if they were intercha...
I think Gettier would just provide you with a case where the erroneous clock is publicly checkable and defeater-sensitive. For example: a case where m...
The counterargument could be phrased this way: 1. Truth is always known via justification, and ensured by justification 2. Justification can never ove...
There are some folk on TPF who do not actually believe in truth or knowledge, and you are the foremost. This has been pointed out quite a few times. S...
That looks like a red herring, given that you seem to agree with what I've said. Right, but my point is that your approach is materially identical to ...
Auguste Comte, generally recognized as the father of social science, explicitly modeled his approach on that of religion in general and Catholicism in...
A common notion in modernity, found in things like the "invisible hand," is that one should just focus on X and Y will work itself out. "Just focus on...
Yes, good points. :up: Okay, interesting. Okay. Okay, and this relates to things like the paradox of tolerance. I suppose one inroad into this topic i...
Okay, good. It seems like your argument is that history is the inevitable outworking of semiotic or social realities, and therefore each point in hist...
Lots of good thoughts. :up: The classical object of the common good seems mostly invisible to liberalism. The idea of a telos that transcends self is ...
An interesting question that follows upon the OP is this: Does it undermine the strong rejection to rationally illuminate the grounds for strong rejec...
It is, yep. That's the whole schtick, ": But." The 'but' is the whole point here, and the colon is apt. The rest is just the necessary window dressing...
As always, your ideas are interesting and possess plausibility. But my difficulty is that you aren't arguing for realism, or democracy, or liberalism,...
We're talking about the relation between realism and democracy & liberalism. Now you want to talk about the genesis of liberal democracy? Leontiskos: ...
Here's what I've been saying from the beginning: You claimed a connection between realism and democracy & liberalism, and I have been asking how that ...
So let me ask you a preliminary question: do you think that realism gets one to democracy and liberalism, or do you think that your specific variety o...
So what does pragmatic realism have to do with democracy or liberalism? Democracy and liberalism are moral/political positions. But no, I am not under...
- :up: Do you think we can take your same argument and use it to show that physical to physical causation is not possible if physical events are relat...
There is no noun "mental" in the English language. This poses a problem for an OP that takes such a word for granted. Much confusion will come from ma...
The problem with the analogy is that Original Sin doesn't merely deprive you of a gratuitous gift; it actually harms you. You come to harm (or come to...
(@"Ludwig V") This is a bit tangential, but John Henry Newman has some interesting argumentation vis-a-vis Hume, law, and will: Part of what Newman is...
Right, and that's what I've been driving at: it seems that you think IBE's are the only option, and IBE's do not constitute knowledge. If there is no ...
I don't see why independent courts or a free press lead ineluctably to realism. There are different ways to conceive of liberalism, but are any of the...
- It seems like you want to talk about how one thought can follow from another in a non-logical way (i.e. via psychological association). It's a bit o...
Whether realism has to do with opposition to "social media psychodramas" or the strangeness of intersectionality, either way there is nothing connecti...
I would say that democracy isn't inherently liberal, and liberalism isn't coherent,* and we are seeing these two facts work themselves out. For exampl...
Well that's a rather different claim, isn't it? "X is Y" is not the same as "Some X is Y." Philosophical discussion requires linguistic precision. Tha...
No, your source did not say that knowledge is belief. Go back and have another look. Neither did it say that knowledge is belief that is adequately ju...
Yes, and I think 'value' fails to be a neutral word here given the way contemporary philosophy is prone to the verb (subjective) form of the word. The...
I suppose I would argue that there is a continuum between the two, in much the same way that a child will begin to refine its understanding as it grow...
Okay. Interesting article. :up: Fair enough. That seems like a good account. (Sorry, I sort of forget where I was going with this. :blush:) Okay. Sure...
I don't think so, because it is a statement of knowledge, and knowledge is not belief. It entails a belief, but it is not a statement of belief. If I ...
Apparently we disagree on what the central point is, but @"Count Timothy von Icarus"' objections seem quite strong, and I don't see that they have bee...
I think you're dealing in a lot of false dichotomies and historical inaccuracies. In every community there will be more and less rigorous presentation...
This is an interesting conversation between @"Count Timothy von Icarus" and @"apokrisis". The difference seems to revolve around this: I am going to u...
But if you are saying that everything is believed and nothing is known, then I don't find that to be epistemologically precise. According to standard ...
Okay thanks, that makes sense (although I may come back to this dichotomy between deduction and abduction). Okay, so you are saying that some beliefs ...
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