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Can you think of a different reason why perpetual motion machines would be impossible?

wonderful.

That ai just told me that conservation of energy isn't shielded from falsification like that. https://chatgpt.com/share/67d36240-7604-8002-b429-66d510...

strictly speaking, no scientific statement is falsifiable because any scientific statement has an out. Let's say you come up with a theory that says "...

Yes, it would. You could just insist nothing is falsifiable by providing an out for any contrary observation.

that kind of idea would make ANYTHING unfalsifiable, not just conservation of energy. is tthat your position? that all statements are unfalsifiable?

You don't think it's falsifiable? I think it is. I think it's absolutely falsifiable. Two balls smashing into each other and bouncing away from each o...

Gladly. The argument made in the OP doesn't posit that it's impossible that one could make a different choice in a rewind scenario (or, in the article...

yeah those kinds of things are my worry.

I'm on the fence about that one, curious what others think

You are correct, of course, I'm just saying that's not the direction of argument being made here.

But, you know, in simple terms, if everything is happening the same way every time you replay with the same starting conditions, that is in a very str...

I dont even know what this question is asking. If "the U" is "the universe", then the universe already has a name - it's "the universe". Determinism a...

no. I'm not naming "the universe". I'm naming two categories of systems. One is named determinism. One is named indeterminism. If this world is indete...

follow up to my previous post, I wanted to ask an LLM just for fun. An LLM is of course not a replacement for a human expert or an individuals thought...

I have no idea why you think that doesn't apply to your view that it would always play out the same way. Whatever semantic distinction you're drawing ...

Yeah, just wanted to add to this to make it explicitly, you would have to be perfectly the same too. But I think you already factored that in.. It's a...

"two names". I have no idea where this comes from. If I have two employees, Sarah and Paul, and they have exactly the same skills at photography, and ...

I have no idea where you're getting half that stuff from. "No significant difference", yes. Everything else, I don't know where you're getting everyth...

why don't you just clarify your question? I clearly interpreted something wrong, how hard is it for you to just say what you meant?

I can't read? Isn't non-D. Maybe you can't write clearly.

Nothing strange illogical or wrong about something being D and not non-D at all. Double-negation leaves you with a positive. If it is "isn't non d", a...

why? What's strange about it?

right, and the reason, as far as I can tell, that your view doesn't have the intelligibility problem is because it actually isn't reliant on indetermi...

you're asking me questions that don't matter to understand the thought experiment in question. They simply don't matter. They're as relevant as if you...

You criticized both me and the writer of the article for being vague, but you keep on saying completely unqualified statements that, without more spec...

I think you're reading stuff into it that isn't there. It doesn't say any of that explicitly, and I don't believe it says it implicitly either

As far as functions go, or systems that evolve into the future, I believe so. By whom?

Which is why I can't stress enough that "physical" isn't particularly important here. Afaik you brought up physical determinism. It isn't mentioned in...

Libertarians hold that free will is only possible in indeterminism. And given that indeterminism in regards to human choice literally means "Bob's cho...

that wasn't very clear from your phrasing that you were talking about the experiment being impossible I thought you meant the decision to do one actio...

is "it is?" a non sequitur? I don't see where in the article he concedes that's impossible.

Only under a condition that is by design the sort of condition that distinguishes determinism from indeterminism. Which is relevant, because libertari...

none of what you're saying looks to me to even be an attempt at engaging with the actual logic of the article in the op. None of it relies on instrume...

I'm not sure about that tbh. I know that quantum mechanics maintains certain conservations, like momentum and angular velocity things like that. But I...

You say that, but then you confirm that Bob2 would always do the same thing as Bob1, which is what determinism means. Even when those actions involve ...

I don't understand why you keep bringing up physical determinism at all. Even if there isn't a single physical thing in existence, and agents are all ...

This conversation doesn't rely on it being true. It relies only on understanding what it means. What does it mean for something to be deterministic? W...

That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm taking about determinism. Any determinism. Physical or otherwise

If that's true for every decision in bobs life - that Bob1 and Bob2 and bob3 and... Bob? will always do the same given identical everything, then... w...

So, rational causation is indeterministic you say. I'm not really sure why you think that, or why appealing to "norms" would make it indeterministic (...

I read what you wrote. It still sounds like you're saying "it's incoherent because I don't know what (in)determinism means". We talked about it alread...

interesting, would you say you can square genuine alternative possibilities with determinism? How would you describe a situation where there's genuine...

so step 1 confirmed or not?

OK. So, first let me say, I'm not interested in convincing you of compatibilism. I can't do that. I don't want to do that, it's beside the point. I'm ...

A compatibilist one. Do you know what a compatibilist kind of free will is? Let's break this down into two steps for you. Step one: understand what it...

Why? Why is mentioning a term that tim wood doesn't know the definition of incoherent? Is it incoherent any time anybody says a word you don't know? D...

I didn't describe an indeterminist compatibilism. I described an indeterminist compatibilist - a person who is a compatibilist, who happens to be an i...

The universe being indeterministic doesn't seem to give any more room for free will than if it were deterministic.

what I believe about free will is way more difficult to express than the ideas in this article. And they don't matter in regards to a thread about the...