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You are certainly correct. However, if I'm putting thought into this puzzle, I'm not going to focus it in a direction that doesn't make sense. I don't...
December 02, 2025 at 03:25
I think if someone was going to strip away your qualia, you would object. Probably strenuously. You are going to the paint store for some specific col...
December 01, 2025 at 12:14
I guess I'm wondering about the timeline. Were the brain's ability to do the work so that the conscious subset could interpret the signals and the con...
December 01, 2025 at 10:45
I want to understand consciousness. Science has allowed us to come to know our reality to a degree that allows us to measure both the fantastically hu...
December 01, 2025 at 03:58
It makes no difference in the paint shop. If that is your only concern, then you're good.
December 01, 2025 at 02:13
The reason is more that it doesn't make sense to think that consciousness can emerge, or arise, or be caused by something physical, so we need another...
November 30, 2025 at 22:37
IYou specifically said "...an illusion of language and introspection" and "What is spoken of as "the sensation of red" is not a thing at all, so much ...
November 30, 2025 at 22:03
Not sure how you mean this. If people did not experience colors, why would they begin referring to the colors of things in order to distinguish betwee...
November 30, 2025 at 15:09
If it was not private, if it was quantifiable and able to be studied, the way the molecules and noses are, we would know whether or not your experienc...
November 30, 2025 at 12:40
The aroma is the qualia, whether it's the smell of coffee, the color red, the taste of feta cheese, the feeling of pain, or whatever. Yes, there is a ...
November 30, 2025 at 04:10
Molecules of the liquid floating through the air is not a private thing. My subjective experience of it is, and it might be very different from yours....
November 30, 2025 at 02:17
I don't think preference or aroma are about anything but qualia. And why does the coffee need to be pulverized?
November 30, 2025 at 01:40
But what is the conversation about? What can we say about coffee that doesn't involve qualia?
November 30, 2025 at 01:28
No, this isn't what I mean. I think consciousness and mental are not at all the same thing. Not even related. Thinking is just physical. I quote this ...
November 29, 2025 at 21:50
What I mean is, why is the form it's in not the form that it can most easily process and act upon? I've never asked this question of my own view, but ...
November 29, 2025 at 01:04
I claim consciousness is an objective fact. But it's not something that has physical properties, so cannot be discovered or studied with our physical ...
November 28, 2025 at 23:17
The alternative would seem to be that, because of the laws of physics, the physical events progress from one arrangement to the next - potassium ions ...
November 28, 2025 at 14:08
I'm not sure I understand. It seems like you're saying the brain understands the information well enough to convert it to a different format? If it un...
November 28, 2025 at 13:30
And that is what needs explanation. It doesn't even matter whether or not what it is like for me to see red is the same as what it is like for you to ...
November 27, 2025 at 23:46
I don't know which types of dualism would agree, but the property dualism I have in mind, with consciousness a fundamental property, does not.
November 27, 2025 at 22:57
this is the closest I've come here. https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15877/property-dualism/p1 But it's kind of sloppy in ways. Working on ge...
November 26, 2025 at 21:56
Thank you.
November 26, 2025 at 19:26
Right. and, even though I suspect consciousness is something very different than what you think it is, it needs to be explained either way. It can't j...
November 26, 2025 at 18:14
Of course it's the brain. Nobody's questioning that. But that's where, not how. We know that wings make an airplane fly. When we ask how, simply repea...
November 26, 2025 at 14:43
Can you tell me anything about the 'passive mind'? I don't know what you mean by that.
November 25, 2025 at 18:44
That's Such an amazingly important thing. No analogy works. Of course, no one is perfect, and people always point out the problems with an analogy. Th...
November 25, 2025 at 13:48
We don't have a hint of understanding how the brain makes subjective experiences. Which means we don't know that it does. You cannot claim to know tha...
November 25, 2025 at 01:36
I am glad you admit that, because I do not deny the ability to detect anything non-physical. Consciousness is non-physical, yet we detect it. As I sai...
November 25, 2025 at 00:35
Just to understand the terminology, shape and color are not Qualities? Blue and red are different qualities of color, and square in circle are differe...
November 24, 2025 at 13:49
Well, twice, anyway. and I haven't answered it because I've been trying to make you understand what I actually said. But first I'll answer, and then I...
November 24, 2025 at 12:38
Noting correlation is not the same as explaining how one causes the other. There is nothing about the physical events that suggests subjective experie...
November 24, 2025 at 05:24
I don't know how alone I am in this, but I think they do apply to thoughts. I think thinking is a physical process. But consciousness is things like t...
November 24, 2025 at 03:55
Still, we can measure them. Flying is a process. How far did the plane fly? In which direction? How much fuel did it user? How long did it take? DNA r...
November 24, 2025 at 01:13
Do you equate mental and consciousness?
November 23, 2025 at 23:55
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying we can detect the physical. Can you tell me what the physical properties of consciousness are? Are they like the p...
November 23, 2025 at 18:41
I might respond, "No. The TV is on." I've said that kind of thing at times. Right. I think we should not. Where does it end? I believe I have ten fing...
November 23, 2025 at 15:20
You don't know what has been worth staying alive for? A few weeks ago, you came up with an idea for an approach that, while not specific, you hope wil...
November 23, 2025 at 04:13
I don't know what you mean. Or maybe I didn't say it clearly. I'm saying we can detect the physical. That's what our sciences are all about. But if th...
November 23, 2025 at 03:37
You said I couldn't find our subjective experience of heat in physical events because I glossed over many of them, and made assumptions about them. Do...
November 22, 2025 at 23:52
How, indeed. Although maybe "add" isn't the right word. Maybe it's two things at once, one of which is a belief. The other is... What? The possession,...
November 22, 2025 at 23:07
I might often use those interchangeably, but they certainly can be different things. Perhaps every assertion is a belief, but not every belief is an a...
November 22, 2025 at 14:50
How does not understanding what the physical events are doing grant the knowledge that they are doing this thing that is unexplainable by what we do k...
November 22, 2025 at 03:21
Right. I'm not stating, or even thinking of, it as a belief. But is that what it is? Even if it amounts to the same thing, is it actually the same thi...
November 21, 2025 at 15:07
it's a fascinating topic. I find it mind blowing that DNA doesn't determine every detail, but allows for as much variability in response to circumstan...
November 21, 2025 at 04:24
"Which of them" doesn't necessarily mean "which one of them", and the thought that just one neuron event is our subjective experience of heat is prepo...
November 21, 2025 at 04:15
I think I'm not sure about the word belief in this context. I don't think I believe there's a television in my living room. It's a fact that there's a...
November 20, 2025 at 23:38
I don't know about this. When you play with little kittens who have never seen a mouse, have never hunted for anything, and never been threatened beca...
November 20, 2025 at 20:45
Good to know. Thanks.
November 20, 2025 at 02:01
What would be an example of a belief that you wonder if a cat might have?
November 19, 2025 at 21:52
I don't think 6-year olds have been tested in ways that we are currently talking about. Mainly, because technology has only recently made such testing...
November 19, 2025 at 21:03