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Is the statement "The force cannot be killed, because it is not a biological bodily existence" an established fact? Perhaps a natural law? If so, I wo...

I would say this depends on the particular belief system. For example, the Bible says man was made in God's image, and that Adam and Eve hid when they...

Yes, I did. I am no longer saying they are invalid, and have not said it in several posts. Can we move on? Ok, they are not to be clarified, they are ...

I am not saying they are invalid. I have not used that word in several posts. I have backed things up. I am asking if you can support or clarify these...

Yes. I now understand they are not your concluding claims. They are assumptions. I'm asking if you can support or clarify your assumptions.

Can you support this? I an not familiar enough with beings of force and spirit to know why they cannot die/cease to be. Can you clarify this? I don't ...

You need not supply the reason why your statements are valid in the first place, but I must supply the reason why they are not?

Your assumptions are just assumptions. If you support them, I might be swayed. Or I might not be swayed, and might offer a counter argument. But if yo...

In essence, that's what I just said to you. You are making claims without logical or evidential support. What evidence is there that an omnipotent bei...

Correct. Free will means, regardless of what actually happened, whether the cup of coffee was picked up or not, it could have gone the other way. Unli...

I don't see any reason to assume this. We can't know such things about a being of force and spirit. And we don't know that death cannot come to non-ph...

I don't see why an omnipotent being couldn't commit suicide. I agree, there's no puzzle. I disagree with the assertions that an omnipotent being can d...

Oops. Typo. Matt = not. My point is that just because said omnipotent being can arrange to be reincarnated doesn't mean they must.

This is not the same as: Surely if a being is omnipotent, then he must reincarnate himself too.

Yes, that happens all the time. I couldn't guess all the reasons for it, but I'm sure there have been many studies done. A few possibilities... -Somet...

I do. If there wasn't, we wouldn't perceive the same thing. No matter how we test or verify it, we see the same thing. The reason is because we indepe...

I had hoped for some specifics. If what consciousness seems to be is an illusion, what is it really? What is the explanation for the existence of the ...

Sorry for misinterpreting you. Looking at your previous posts, I see what you meant, and am rather annoyed with myself. As it's in this world, it's ob...

I don't agree with any of that. I can be blindfolded, driven somewhere I've never been, and taken into room in a building I've never even seen in a pi...

No. Nagel's bat would be more of a presence. In the situation you describe, there would be nothing it's like to be that person from that person's pov....

I'm just kidding around. If you put on a robe and eat rice, you might be enlightened. :halo:

Maybe you are already enlightened, and didn't know it. :grin:

What do you mean by "considering the current state of science"? There are any number of examples throughout history of the most plausible explanation ...

How about answering a couple? :grin: You believe it could just on account of the fact that it seems to be inexplicable? My point being, it supports my...

Ah. Ok. Can you give me another example of something that can't be explained in terms of physics that is not non-physical? You believe it could just o...

I don't think I understand you. It looks to me like this says the inability to explain it in physical terms is not important to the question of whethe...

Someone on another site has this sig: If you can't tell the difference, what difference does it make? Excellent saying. Of course, it applies to quite...

Yes, very interesting things will be happening in there near future, I'm sure! :grin:

Nothing about the physical properties and laws of physics suggests subjective experience. That's from an expert in the field of physical properties an...

Here's a problem: Consciousness is a natural thing. Anything in the universe is natural. The problem is the belief that there cannot be any aspect of ...

Whatever the true nature of what we call the physical is, my point is that there has never been any suggestion that consciousness has any of its chara...

Calling the view you disagree with 'naive "folk" understanding' and 'vague intuition' is not arguing against that attitude. It literally is that attit...

I have to try to find a way to word this... You're not writing about it. There is no even prime number greater than 100. Not hypothetically, not in th...

Joshs, I don't understand your point.I can stumble upon something I've never seen before, that doesn't resemble anything I've seen before, and whose p...

I think we should use the word "exist." Perhaps there are types of existence other than physical.

I wouldn't be so dismissive of people like Chalmers and Nagel. Their positions are far from naive, and are the result of far more than intuition. They...

I can't imagine you mean this the way I'm taking it. But I don't know how else to take it, so I'll respond to it that way. Yes, absolutely, knowledge ...

Neural activity is electrical and chemical signals moving along the neurons. That is consciousness? Photon hits retina, rhodopsin changes shape, conce...

It's not about intuition. It's a lack of physical characteristics. Physical properties combine in many ways, but the results are always physical. We c...

If it is not the meaning of the words that affects you in a certain way, could random words affect you in that same way?

Indeed. if anyone's blood pressure goes up because of what they read on the Internet, it has nothing to do with anything physical. It is only about th...

There is obviously something wrong.

Indeed! :grin: One of my favorite sci-fi books is Neverness, by David Zindell. In it is a quote attributed to Lyall Watson (I don't know where it is i...

A good absorber is a good radiator. And the physical properties of matter that allow iron to become magnetized also make iron subject to magnetism. If...

I believe it is self-evident, similar to the way it is self-evident that cheese is not the product of a spinning wheel. As absurd as that example is, ...

Surely not. We wouldn't have all these threads about the same thing for years and decades of it was any. :grin: Aren't you saying the equivalent of, "...

You don't merely think our experience of qualia is redundant? You question that we have these experiences? You don't experience redmess, an additional...

I haven't spoken with ChatGPT in more than a year. But back then, it was making mistakes. I pointed out factual errors occasionally, and it apologized...

Indeed. And I'm sure there will be numerous more threads about it.

, if is right about what you mean, would 'superfluous' be a good word? I'm thinking it's redundant to say I am fast, quick, and speedy. But you're say...