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Without yet going back to look at what I was responding to, it sounds like I'm talking about the self. I don't think there's a soul-ish kind of thing ...
August 25, 2025 at 23:25
Yes, if matters. If you freeze the brain with cold, then you've killed it. There is no continuity of memory, or life, from one moment to the next. If ...
August 25, 2025 at 17:21
No, it's clarification. It seems to me most people think consciousness means a lot more than subjective experience. Cognition, thinking, awareness, se...
August 25, 2025 at 17:06
Great post, Dawnstorm. I believe Gene said he came up with the transporter because he couldn't figure out how to land the ship.
August 24, 2025 at 16:16
It isn't as though there is no connection between the physical brain and memories. Continuity of memories is accomplished by subjectively experiencing...
August 24, 2025 at 13:50
I don't see any reason it must work alone. I can examine things wherever it finds them. My general idea is that it we shouldn't be surprised if our ph...
August 24, 2025 at 13:29
I don't know. I'm wracking my brain. It is not measurable or detectable in any way. There is nothing about any or all of the physical properties of th...
August 24, 2025 at 04:22
Your continuity ends when your particles are separated, regardless of the scenario or any considerations. The reassembled person, or exact replica, wi...
August 24, 2025 at 03:55
Well, I've read your first couple posts a few times. But I don't see that my comments would need different than what over been saying. You do not surv...
August 23, 2025 at 04:56
No problem. Forums can be like that.
August 22, 2025 at 22:31
I came in after a few pages, and joined the conversation that was in progress. Thread drift is inevitable, as they say. I'll read your OP before posti...
August 22, 2025 at 19:46
I agree. That sounds right to me. I don't think reason and intellect are parts of consciousness, so it's not even a case of something examining itself...
August 22, 2025 at 14:29
Ah. I misunderstood how you meant it.
August 22, 2025 at 10:44
An atom is organic? How is memory accomplished in an atom? How does an atom change what it does in a given set of circumstances the next time it encou...
August 22, 2025 at 10:36
I really can't tell from your post if you want to understand my position. If not, no worries. If you are, you have a lot of it wrong. I'm not going to...
August 22, 2025 at 04:17
I'm not. Consciousness A can be identical to Consciousness B. But A is not B. Identical things are not the same thing. That applies to consciousnesses...
August 21, 2025 at 23:24
I'll tell you why I think not. I believe I define consciousness, and interpret everything we see and everything within us, differently than anybody el...
August 21, 2025 at 22:19
If my atoms are dispersed, I have no memories. Or life. Building a replica of me means it has my memories, and everything else. But it's still a repli...
August 21, 2025 at 17:13
So that's a difference between (at least my) panpsychism and IIT. Zero consciousness does not exist. A photon subjectively experiences, though, obviou...
August 21, 2025 at 16:43
A guy at another site caught Gemini inn a lie. That seems pretty serious to me. Lying??
August 20, 2025 at 22:02
The position is the argument. Source Kirk is killed. That's what happens when someone's atoms are dispersed. Destination Kirk is a duplicate. Destinat...
August 20, 2025 at 16:29
This is the one. Except Destination Kirk doesn't "just happen" to be the same. He's a copy. Of course he's the same. But Source Kirk was disintegrated...
August 19, 2025 at 23:56
Is it not a problem that, despite there being no self beyond the instant, the "illusion of persistence" of more is the only thing none of us would giv...
August 19, 2025 at 15:20
I suspect nobody would go along with my scenario of being disintegrated after seeing the copy come into being. Much less assuming or being assured a c...
August 19, 2025 at 11:14
What does IIT say when there is no ?? My distinction came next, when I said even the simplest organism is running many information processing systems....
August 19, 2025 at 11:07
Would you willingly be transported if, for some weird reason of the technology, the duplicate came into being, and then you were disintegrated? You se...
August 19, 2025 at 10:43
I never heard of Parfit until you mentioned him in the other post. But I know what I think about the topic, so if such a device is built, I will avoid...
August 19, 2025 at 01:30
Klingons are from this galaxy.
August 18, 2025 at 23:35
The OP is about the transporters on Star Trek, and it doesn't mention Parfit. No. I first started thinking of it when I read a Star Trek novel called ...
August 18, 2025 at 23:30
How is it decided what is confusion, and what is or is not a thing?
August 18, 2025 at 20:32
Either the chairs are all the same chair and the people are all the same person, or the chairs and the people are identical copies. If the universe is...
August 18, 2025 at 18:45
Can you explain what you mean?
August 18, 2025 at 18:38
Whoever is keeping track, I would think it would be the same for us as it is for chairs.
August 18, 2025 at 18:37
I think there is a difference between two things being identical and two things being the exact same thing. A factory can pump out, let's say, 1,000 c...
August 18, 2025 at 17:55
We all have our opinions. Mine is that, if all of my atoms are separated from each other, I no longer exist. Just because my atoms all still exist doe...
August 18, 2025 at 17:20
Sorry. I just realized you quoted a different post than the one I thought you I'm talking about my post immediately before your previous post.
August 18, 2025 at 16:29
No. For the reasons I said. (I don't believe in any soul.)
August 18, 2025 at 15:55
It's the premise of the OP. But that's a catch-all. Any other hypothetical methods of doing the same thing are fine. I don't think there's any need fo...
August 18, 2025 at 15:05
Well, we're talking about Star Trek transporters, or whatever is similar enough. Nobody has ever materialized on any of the shows and thought they wer...
August 18, 2025 at 03:38
Does IIT not say consciousness is information processing? [Well, I think everything is conscious, but only of itself. A computer that processes inform...
August 18, 2025 at 03:24
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Well done.
August 17, 2025 at 23:29
No. If my atoms are separated, I do not exist. You can build a replica of me, from the atoms that were once part of me, or from different atoms of the...
August 17, 2025 at 23:27
You cannot successfully transport a living person if you separate all their atoms. You have already failed, because separating all of a person's atoms...
August 17, 2025 at 05:07
Well, if the experiments go the way he expects them to go, it would be reasonable to think they went that way for the reason he expected them too.
August 16, 2025 at 18:57
Heh. Fixed.
August 16, 2025 at 18:34
The original is always killed, and a copy constructed at the destination. Maybe deconstructing the original is needed to get all the information, and ...
August 16, 2025 at 14:03
What is your explanation for the unity of experience?
August 16, 2025 at 05:00
End of the day, all theories explain it with, "That's the way it is." Even beyond theories of consciousness. Why is there something instead of nothing...
August 16, 2025 at 02:52
Because off this:
August 15, 2025 at 16:14
Fair enough.
August 15, 2025 at 13:56