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If there are any, they obviously aren't near enough to have any impact on us. We have seen no sign of them, after all. But, if there are others, as we...
September 12, 2025 at 23:41
My views are similar in ways, and different in others. I say consciousness is an irreducible property with the ability to experience and cause. I thin...
September 12, 2025 at 23:38
Mental events are not substances, but the mind is?
September 12, 2025 at 16:18
Unless you are wrong, and mental events within the property dualism do have causal power.
September 12, 2025 at 15:41
Yes, that's how I see it. (Although I'm on the property dualism side instead of substance dualism.)
September 12, 2025 at 15:28
If I tell an AI that 2 + 2 = 3, it would say that's not accurate. If I tell it candidate X said something during the debate, the AI can review the vid...
September 12, 2025 at 15:26
True. To add another dimension... Yes, that person would learn something right away. But they would not understand the song until they hear enough mus...
September 12, 2025 at 12:24
Do you have a solution to that problem with substance dualism? I have frequently said why I think what I think. Most recently, a few posts above, I ex...
September 12, 2025 at 03:38
I'm not being contrarian. I have a different view of things than you do. I do not think the things humans are conscious of are what consciousness is. ...
September 11, 2025 at 01:52
Sure, assuming we're the only ones in the universe. We certainly don't have evidence that there are others. But the same laws of physics are operating...
September 11, 2025 at 01:32
No doubt there is a perfectly functioning iPhone lying on a planet somewhere out there, the result of avalanches, volcanic activity, and meteorites. A...
September 11, 2025 at 01:08
That seems very significant to me. Mental activity has done extraordinary things than would never happen without it. And how far will it go? Will ther...
September 10, 2025 at 23:06
Somehow, I missed the part that the clone saw what was going on. I was thinking he didn't know, so would live thinking he was the original. And there ...
September 10, 2025 at 22:45
It is a conundrum. Hence 300 threads here debating it. :rofl:
September 10, 2025 at 15:48
You are dead. Your clone is alive. Your clone is indistinguishable from you. Nobody, not even your colone, will ever know it is a copy. But what if! W...
September 10, 2025 at 01:44
Billions of human-made objects are a demonstration of things that did not come about due only to the laws of physics. The interactions of particles an...
September 10, 2025 at 00:21
They are unanalyzable by our physical sciences. But if enough people decide it's worth thinking about, some people might come up with some good ideas....
September 09, 2025 at 22:15
It might not help "science", if science can only be physical. But I would say coming to a better understanding of our nature, and possibly a better un...
September 09, 2025 at 20:01
It is based on the fact that there is no physicalist explanation for consciousness, nor even a guess. (If you look below the ********** below, I've co...
September 09, 2025 at 16:53
I agree. I think mathematics is discovered. I was just playing devil's advocate. Again, I agree. That's just what ChatGPT wants you to think!!
September 09, 2025 at 13:54
It's great when Karen Carpenter sings: I love you in a place where there's no space or time But I don't know if anyone thinks it's more than poetry.
September 09, 2025 at 01:57
Is the problem that humans might have invented mathematics? If that's it, I don't see it as a problem. It seems to me physical things we've invented a...
September 09, 2025 at 01:45
Well, I can't much comment. I'd never heard of Popper and his Worlds until you mentioned him a couple posts ago. But I don't see why a N-teenth prime ...
September 08, 2025 at 22:01
I quite agree.
September 08, 2025 at 18:06
M2M seems interesting. On the one hand, if I wrote 12 + 7 =, I expect quite a few people will soon have 19 in their thoughts. But it's not the physica...
September 08, 2025 at 17:17
Who says that? Isn't "inner experience" or "subjective reality" usually the definition of consciousness?
September 06, 2025 at 22:17
I disagree with pretty much everything you said. I'm speaking from an entirely different angle. And I know nobody agrees with me, but I still think wh...
September 05, 2025 at 19:22
Yeah, because that's wrong. If a universe had beings that were not conscious, they would not be talking about consciousness. They concept never would ...
September 04, 2025 at 11:21
It's not that I've excluded. It's that I haven't gotten into what comes of this setup, because I'm trying to get the very basic idea across before mov...
September 04, 2025 at 03:15
A brain can't experience anything other than being a brain, if that's what you mean?
September 03, 2025 at 02:28
I don't understand. Why would anybody/thing that was not conscious say it was? ChatGPT doesn't say it is conscious. Would anything in a universe that ...
September 02, 2025 at 21:14
I do. Consciousness does not have physical properties. We can detect and measure brain activity. Electrical activity; magnetic activity; blood flow; b...
September 02, 2025 at 14:59
I'm saying dark matter and consciousness are both thought to exist because matter is doing things that can't be explained by what we know about matter...
August 31, 2025 at 23:59
We know dark matter exists, because of its gravitational effect. But that's it. With all our sciences, we can't detect it at all. It doesn't absorb, r...
August 31, 2025 at 03:02
I'm suggesting we need a new version of science. All our sciences use the physical to explore the physical.
August 30, 2025 at 15:42
No, I haven't. Look all you want, and you will not find me saying that anywhere. Consciousness is causal. There's no denying that. All we have to do i...
August 29, 2025 at 13:27
I think maybe the problem is trying to speak objectively about experiences that can only be had subjectively, and trying to fit the study of conscious...
August 29, 2025 at 02:12
Not does your credulity prove it. How many nanoseconds are needed to bring about simple death?
August 28, 2025 at 19:06
Does Chalmers say how this can be accomplished; what it means 'to reassess our concept of "3rd person objectivity"'? If you meant this as a way to beg...
August 28, 2025 at 17:22
First, I didn't say "that you are wrong." When quoting me, kindly don't misquote me. At least not intentionally. It is obvious that dispersing someone...
August 28, 2025 at 16:14
In my photography scenario, there is no anger until I generate it within myself. I'm not sure it's different in your cafe. He didn't declare that he w...
August 28, 2025 at 15:13
The person's life is lost in that nanosecond. If you disperse a person's particles, the person is dead. That does not require explanation or elaborati...
August 28, 2025 at 14:46
Clearly, his anger caused your anger. But I don't think that's the same as experiencing his anger. Do you think you could become angry from looking at...
August 28, 2025 at 14:09
Heh https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15877/property-dualism/p1 https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/16075/consciousness-is-fundamental/p...
August 27, 2025 at 14:36
Yes! Exactly. I don't need convincing, but it certainly sounds like something I should read. Thanks.
August 27, 2025 at 11:57
Yes, The person stepping into the transporter will be 0.0 alive after the process. Their atoms were dispersed. There is no way to disperse someone's i...
August 27, 2025 at 11:30
Further, people from different parts of the world and cultures will agree on the details, whether or not they are "really out there". If you shoot som...
August 27, 2025 at 02:33
It's a difficult thing to figure out. I don't know much about it, but I assume the storage systems are still there, but access to it is very spotty, a...
August 27, 2025 at 02:07
Correct. There are the things, and there are the experiences of the things. I don't understand how this is controversial. Of course consciousness give...
August 26, 2025 at 11:57
I have never looked, but I imagine there are plenty of interviews with people with Alzheimer's, amnesia, and whatever else, as well as their families....
August 26, 2025 at 03:09