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To me this is a strange and very questionable statement. This really does sound like a ghost story from over here.

Less is more. But direct. Tentative partial answer : community norms governing the inferential relationships between claims in which the concept appea...

'Direct' should be read as inindirect, a negation or cancelling of the original mistake. Cut out the middle man. Sweep away the metaphysical cobwebs. ...

Respectfully, I claim that you don't yet understand the position. 'Mind-independent world' is potentially nonsensical, almost definitely misleading. '...

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Let me stop you there at the heart of our disagreement. The self is not 'behind' the senses or its data. The self is (I claim) a discursive performanc...

I trust the latest models well enough. Now we can endlessly clarify what it might mean to say so --- and what 'the world as it in itself' is supposed ...

No, it's not that. The point is that concepts are public norms. The concept pain doesn't get its meaning from private experience. Bots have already le...

Neither ? Either answer will feed into exactly the presupposition I'm challenging. There's just the world, our world, the one we talk about. Inasmuch ...

I'm saying that as philosophers we are negotiating conceptual norms (by appealing to them), arguing for the rational and proper way to apply concepts ...

I see the difference between 1 and 2. We can talk about other things than talking, but we are still talking about those other things, making claims, a...

To talk about seeing is just as much to talk about talk about seeing. Concepts are norms. To talk about seeing is to link the concept of seeing with o...

.. Of course. But who ever denied it ? I already said that humans don't always have to apply concepts when they see. Babies can just grab the red bloc...

I'm not phonocentric. So we can just talk about sign language if you want. We can think of claims as equivalence classes (they can be spoken or signed...

Let me also say that these norms are very much liquid and self-referential. Philosophy is something like the questioning of these norms within these n...

I'm not claiming that. The concept of thinking gets its meaning from norms governing inferences. That's my thesis.

Sure. As a practical matter, for now, you can mutter to yourself so quietly that nobody hears what you say.

Thinking is a minimal kind of talking, basically.

I claim that 'just thinking' a number not truly but only relatively immaterial and private. Artificial intelligence is learning to read 'internal' mon...

Deep question ! My (cobbled together) oversimplified tentative view is that concepts are norms. Concepts are norms we perform, norms we embody. They a...

I don't know. I said I was a postHegelian direct realist. I claim that we talk about the tree and not an image of the tree.

Sellars or Brandom would distinguish between (for instance) smoke detectors and parrots and human beings. All can react differentially to smoke. The d...

:up: This objection I understand more, given the ambiguity of 'perception.' But it seems to assume also the possibility of a folk psychology where onl...

If you mean the background can be sketched as well as it can be sketched, well sure. If you mean the background can be made simple and clear, you are ...

:up: We might want to add a normative dimension to this, such as what separates philosophy from less organized and serious discussions of what is.

. :up: That's maybe the murkiest stuff in B&T.

:up: Phronesis ? More skill than spiel ?

This is the reduction of (the masking or covering up of ) the iffy and uncanny to / with comfortable banalities. Idle talk is gossip that levels, that...

<grin> I do appreciate a dark sense of humor.

As I see it, there's a continuum that runs from what are nakedly fairy tails to an anemic or white mythology with a minimum of images. We never transc...

In case it furthers the conversation, I'll work with this: It implies that the world is always already primarily given as the common world. It is not ...

:up: Definitions are poems.

Somewhere I picked up the theory that paintings exist to teach us how to see the world in a new way. Maybe poems are like that, telling us where to lo...

:up: They are default bot as generic soul of a tribe.

:up: ...which is to say in the matter itself and not the gossip around it and an excuse to do something easier, something routine, like attack or defe...

Cool that you noticed ! It's actually a nod to artificial intelligence (transformers are the key piece at the moment.). For me it's a nice metaphor fo...

:up: Yes. We bury complexity under words that we pretend to understand.

:up: Yes, that sounds correct. We were lucky to have had the lectures available.

This is iffy. It's either a tautology or missing the point. Preverbal competence ! Toolbeing. In the beginning was animal skill. In the beginning was ...

I haven't yet read Basic Problems. It's been on my list forever. Always thought it looked good. But it seems we've both seen how readable the lectures...

:up: Now you are talking some Heidegger ! That's why we must dig, my friend. That's why we can't just stare, assuring ourselves that we are neutral an...

This is a beautiful quote, and I will grant you that Being and Time contains many needlessly tangled passages. Yet there are long stretches that I fin...

There's a charitable reading of this. New metaphors confuse and offend. To test dead metaphors with a hammer is to do violence to common sense. One is...

We can drop it if you want, but to me this is like quoting the bible to disprove atheism. Consider this quote: I'm challenging this framework itself. ...

:up: Always a fair request, no matter the dense philosopher...

Why not 'materially' embodied ? Why not there as a dance is there ? 'Materially casually relevant' is hard to make sense of otherwise. My objection is...

I think artificial intelligence will prove or at least threaten to be a mirror for us.

<smile> An anemic mythology is one that's reduced to a minimum of metaphoricity. Note that you use 'opiate' as a metaphor, so that rationality is taci...

:up: Fair enough ! I joke about being a HegelBot because I focus on the most self-referential aspect of the world, trying to see our seeing, know our ...

This is the problem with rich, difficult thinkers. Background is everything. Imagine a rich kid in a poor neighborhood, trying to make sense of things...