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I'll readily say there's a big tonal gap between them. It should be stressed that all of Hegel's godstuff is (for me anyway) best understood figurativ...

Another Hegel passage from same section on Romantic Art (lots of great stuff in that section, so this is just a sample): https://www.marxists.org/refe...

Normativity is what matters here. Reason must subject itself to critique in all its undertakings, and cannot restrict the freedom of critique through ...

This can only be taken so far without performative contradiction. In fact, Braver's A Thing of This World largely inspired my contemplation of exactly...

:up: Braver features Hegel as just this kind of liquifier of Kant's transcendental subject. He then has Heidegger push it even farther, leaving out an...

Hey now. That doesn't sound like disagreement. At least I meant to make clear that the real Hegel's authorial intention is even a fiction perhaps (Der...

Let me add that I know such ontological niceties aren't primarily what flesh needs. But I'm reluctant to join the pragmatists in their collapse of tru...

:up: Yes. So we have to avoid both typical mistakes --- magical independent object and magical independent subject. The world is not our dream, for we...

It's a vague term, so let me specify what I reject. Metaphysically, realism is committed to the mind-independent existence of the world investigated b...

I don't know, but I like the phrase. I think we can at least strongly agree that it ain't all concepts out there. Though we need concepts to say so.

Why don't you just take my word for my claims ? Why don't you just believe what I tell you to believe ? Reason must subject itself to critique in all ...

Once the solid common sense of direct realism is paradoxically violated and we are cast headlong into a world of representation, we end up being force...

:up: Sure, but I'd say metaphysics has always been oracular and poetic, as discussed in Derrida's White Mythology. As I put Popper putting it, science...

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate having a sense of humor about these things. But chess is more fun when one is trying to win, so ontology/metaphysics ...

That being too a partial truth?

As much as I enjoy agreeing with you, I can only make sense of this by understanding 'philosopher' as 'failed philosopher.' And with you speaking as '...

:up: I relate to this. People tend to forget the crucial 'contribution' of the 'subject.' This subject is the 'ontological community' or 'the Conversa...

I think it is a defense of common sense against the rampant indirect realism found among philosophers. But I do reject scientific realism ('mind-indep...

If I can jump in, to me the big Hegelian insight against postulating a hidden Base Reality is that anything that's meaningful for us is caught up in o...

I'd say we all see actual worldly real apples when we see, even if we see them from different angles, and even if I'm colorblind and you are nearsight...

Ah, I see. I was trying to explain how some ordinary situations inspired some philosophers to think that we don't see real objects at all but only rep...

My point is that norms of autonomous rationality are also just mostly absorbed by members of freeish societies. We learn to take responsibility for ou...

To me it seems that we often literally forget ourselves and our own 'space of reasons' as we do philosophy. The transparency of our own subjectivity, ...

:up: This touches on the marriage of art and science or the art that's already in science.

I respect the honesty, and I'm sorry that I wasn't more careful with my words. If you feel like it, what do you make of the OP ? I think we moved from...

Hegel is a beast. I think I've always had to settle for misreadings of him that make him more coherent by throwing some of him away. At the moment, I ...

I'm trying to say that normative linguistic rationality and the inferential relationships between entities are, for us, the 'deepest' level. Whether o...

Rational conversation is, I insist, about the worldly object, the public object. Occasionally we might talk about your 'take' on Hegel instead of Hege...

I agree: an organism. But... as a scientist / ontologist, you are not just goo or even just self-modelling goo. You are at this table with me talking ...

The main idea in my flat ontology is that the 'fundamental' aspect of entities is their inferential relationships to one another. That they exist othe...

I embrace the existence of pain. The meaning of pain is (roughly) its inferential relationships with other entities, like morphine and the spinal cord...

I'm tempted to say we should talk as simply as possible to get at my point. I see this lamp on my desk. I perceive it. It's right there in front of me...

Autonomy means self-rule. Rejecting the unjustified claims of others is part of that. Rejecting the justified claims of others is irrationality. Note ...

Did you the sign the 'member of the English speaking community' contract ? Or did you absorb its semantic norms mostly without trying ?

Hush now, child. Let me tell you how things are.

Sounds interesting. I found this paraphrase: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Nicolai-Hartmann One way to get at this is to consider that no epist...

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Of course. That's so obvious that I'm surprised you'd misunderstand me like that. The point I was making is that calling P true is different than call...

To me that's already in the framework. What we are doing right now is in that framework. It's cooperatively adversarial and the reverse, as if the com...

I completely understand the temptation to psychologize foundationalism in general, and I tend to find something plausible in such moves. But the psych...

:up: So I'd call them (from this sketched position anyway) pseudo-skeptics who don't understand themselves. The 'true' skeptic doesn't show up or at l...

I really don't mind be challenged in good faith, but you are saying at the same time (1) that you don't understand me and (2) that my reasoning is bad...

I depend on professors mostly for my translations of German philosophy, so the universities are not totally rotted out (I mostly joke, but I don't lov...

Perhaps we agree that such a rejection is not logically justified. The world is given to and through entire personalities. I'm aware of no evidence to...

. I can definitely agree that we are far more than merely conceptual beings. Looking around the world today, I'd be tempted to say we are mostly crazy...

Despite our massive 'internal' complexity, I think we are singular as discursive subjects. At least in practical life we are. A philosophy forum might...

As a former pragmatist, I totally understand the charm of that view. But mere instrumental rationality, present surely in rabbits, misses the heart of...

I really didn't mean that to come off as shrill. I was just trying to be vivid about the implications of irrationalism. The culture of personal respon...

It's part of the family of post-philosophical 'irrationalisms' that 'reduce' rationality and logic. https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Psychol...