plaque flag

It's one thing to point out the historical contingency of concepts, but I think you are assuming a radical split between human concepts and some 'pure...

I think this is fascinating path. In my view, it requires a weird ironism. You have to become a kind of metaphysical zen clown, with your speech acts ...

Perhaps you can clear up how this: goes with: To me it's like you are saying the world makes statements true (true statements 'refer' correctly to sta...

Fair enough. I'm trying though.

Is this true or just a useful fiction ? See the issue ? Surely you intend it as a deep truth about our shared reality. This is the problem with earnes...

Yes. And the Englightment is to some degree what happens when folks wake up to the lack of a god to make sure they behave. On a practical level, I'm o...

Is it now ? I'm not a pragmatist. P is not true because it's useful to believe P. Though it is often useful to believe the truth. To say that P is tru...

Yes. I have written many OPs from just such a perspective. That's what Trump believes too. If you are so smart, why aren't you a billionaire ? But I t...

Hey that's just my OP. Only foolish philosophers wipe their asses till their assholes bleed.

I hope I haven't been rude. I'm trying to get you to admit that you too are a real boy. I'm challenging what I see as your psychologism (rationality i...

I think pragmatic versions of truth are inspired by a questionable imaginary perspective on communities from above. We look down on them and see their...

As a former 'radical' instrumentalist and ironist, I'm open to such claims. I used to argue for them, and I still find them to be important partial tr...

I think Husserl pretty much got it right. The world is conceptually articulated. So I can talk about situations that aren't in front of me. I can clai...

There's enough consensus for you to say so. 'Communication is impossible' is a performative contradiction. I know you didn't say exactly that, but you...

That is the question. But if you say that nothing makes them true, where does that leave your claims ? Are sentences 'really' as meaningless but someh...

I should add that I think all entities are related inferentially, so I very much embrace a certain crucial kind of relationalism (structuralism, holis...

Yes, and that of course is part of the ideal of rationality --- autonomy of the individual and of the community at large. So we work together to decid...

I wasn't speaking in my own voice, but from within the perspective that I am indeed criticizing. My use of 'I' was rhetorical, in other words.

Let me reiterate that I largely agree with your take on things. So I'm just focusing on the place where we don't. To what does this truth relate ? Let...

Nice link. New to me.

As far as I can tell, your concern is that theological metaphors might lead to superstitious denials of personal death. FWIW, I think that the case in...

To me Feuerbach is maybe the key figure here. God is roughly the projection of the species essence. You and I as individuals are small next to the inf...

Overall you seem to be saying that you are an unfree-irresponsible meatbot or the algorithm inside it. You basically claim that pain don't hurt. You a...

:up: I think overall your present a kind of group nervous system that has individual thinkers as cells. These cells are constrained by their membershi...

If you mean it's not perfectly critical thought, then I agree. As Habermas puts it, the ideal communication community is, well, ideal. It's the perfec...

To me this is where your view shows some tension. Truths are correct references sounds like the assertion of truth's transcendence. Do you believe tha...

:up: Well said. I don't 100% endorse or agree, but you point out the crucial issues. Very like Rorty again, too. Truth is what your contemporaries let...

I see why this view is tempting. It looks like a form of relativism. Is your own statement here trying to be true ? Or as you yourself trying to creat...

I think (I hope) that my OP made it clear that ontology itself (the stage and its ontological actors) is the necessary spider at the center of the web...

Perhaps you are making some anti-logocentric point about 'knowing' reality nondiscursively. I readily grant that conceptuality is merely one 'dimensio...

Presumably you imply the relatively atemporal truth that such truth is impossible. That's the problem with lazy poses.

Just adding a little more background to the OP. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jurgen-Habermas/Philosophy-and-social-theory

I've mostly studied the earliest Derrida phonocentrism-targeting stuff, focussing on passages like these: https://monoskop.org/images/8/8e/Derrida_Jac...

Perhaps.

Yes. Though that still leaves some wiggle room.

:up: I'd just say that the world you live in is also my world --- but from a different perspective. The world that we can reason about together must b...

No. I'm surprised you would think that. The issue is whether you ought to believe whatever I tell you. In short, I'm trying to get you to account for ...

Yes. Now we optionally start walking on 'the dark side of God.' Tangent (?), but did you ever look at Blood Meridian ? Dark dark beauty. :up: Yes, I a...

I'm a direct realist. The world is real and we look at it and not at some representation of it. Consciousness is just the being of the world for you o...

Mostly the second. Let me explain why I find it problematic. If we imagine what the world is like without us looking at it, we are just using our livi...

:up: I very much agree there's much more to life than this game with concepts. And there's even more to be done with concepts that 'ontology.'

To me his genius move was to take methodological solipsism to the species level. This was implicit in Kant and Descartes because the assumption was th...

Oh I very much agree that we are mostly savages ! I am extremely tempted by psychologism. It's only because it's paradoxical that I don't wallow in it...

:up: Exactly. And I go on to say that we need there to be a world for us to be right or wrong about for this project to make sense. As obvious as this...

A big theme in Kojeve too, the seeker versus the one who has found. This is why I lean on the word ontologist as a little more precise for my purpose....

:up: Just to be clear, I'd also say the real is \infty . It's absurd too, at least in an important sense. I might really be Schlegel's transcendental ...

:up: Kant seems to have pretty much dreamed up a meta-metaphysical 'psychology' from scratch. Hegel lets us just watch a 'system 'grow in the womb of ...

So far you and I have just been unfolding the concept of philosophy. My thread is about the conditions of possibility for philosophy. In short, I clai...

Ah but is there not an structure behind or above all of the ringing changes ? The History of the world is none other than the progress of the consciou...

Yes, which we'd maybe both explain in Hegelian terms. For the record, I'm a liquid rationalist. The lifeworld evolves ceaselessly, and our own concept...