Hanover

[ Is condemnation a moral imperative?

No. You'll have to keep this conversation contextualized yourself.

Hardly a good faith question based upon how it is phrased, but no reason not to just go ahead and hit send the way it is. Why not? With that qualifica...

Meh.

What happened was the poster said that I had no evidence that the attacker was even a Shiah and so why would I rush to judgment in that regard. I post...

No, I simply refuse to attribute to a people what a single person has done or said, which includes your comments here. That you don't serve as a parti...

Either that or I rehashed and summarized what I previously said because you asked me to. The point of this exercise was to save me from having to cond...

I have said exactly what I meant to say, and there's not more that I need to say now that you've offered me permission to speak more freely. I've not ...

I don't think it's reasonably disputed that he is a Shia Muslim, not just based upon his admissions, but also upon the very unlikely coincidence that ...

His Facebook post indicated he was a Shia Muslim supportive of the Ayatollah, also supportive the Iranian government. https://www.livemint.com/news/wo...

I know, right?

It's like herding cats with you guys. I get we hate Trump, racists, Republicans, and probably all sorts of other things, like climate change deniers, ...

And what I see more so unfortunately is an attempt to derail the thread into one over hypocrisy and strained attempts at moral equivalency as opposed ...

I used to make that too. No one would have thought it was fried though. It cooked in a bag and came out baked and steamed, falling off the bone, cover...

Thanks for this post and welcome to the forum. Islam remains a very minority religion where I live, and it's hard to get my finger on the pulse of tha...

We didn't have that dish in particular, but we did have a whole line of "Helper" mixes, as in Hamburger Helper, Tuna Helper, Chicken Helper and the li...

It's hard to conclude anything from some anecdotal information, which is why I was looking for some type of statement from leadership. We've made assu...

I don't follow the relevance of these references. Even if a moral equivalency could be concluded (and I think the distinctions might be significant en...

Hanover's weekend: So, I noticed this vague pain under my eye that lasted a couple of days until some small blisters appeared under my eye, the left s...

I'm aware of the hippie dish known as Rainbow Stew, which is a pot of simmering everything left over. This reminds me of that, but I'll admit I never ...

Spinoza is a well known case of banishment. I'm not trying to argue here who's best and will concede religion does all sorts of evil. The OP wasn't fo...

That's true what it says, but, as noted in other threads, there's no evidence of any actual stonings or biblically mandated death penalties in the pas...

And so this would blur the distinction between the Sunni and Shia condemnation of the Satanic Verses (as they'd both be in agreement there), but they'...

I wasn't aware I was the daily check in draw here, but now that I know it, I think a daily "Hanover's Daily Thoughts" will be in order. That will sati...

Missed this cross post

She was a linguist and she loved it when I corrected her speech so that she could learn how Americans really spoke. So, if you met her after me, you n...

Oliver offers a good summary here of the book and why it evoked controversy:

I had a Persian ex too! Initials MP. Just seeing if we have that in common.

Whether it's bigotry is a moderation question. If it were, the process would entail warnings, deletions, and up to banning by a mod. The process doesn...

Jewish terrorist groups can be found here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism As to each one, you can click to go to that link...

Except that his actions were based on an official decree by the highest leader in his religion. He wasn't just some nut job who was scribbling manifes...

There are many examples of diversions by insular groups that have been criticized within, and the chasm between Hasidic orthodoxy and liberal reform J...

What is the view of Sunnis towards Shias? Do they reject entirely Shia Imam authority, or do they find them persuasive but just not binding? My curios...

It's the same really of every religion, with the Baptists having their authority, the Catholics theirs, the Mormons, and then the unaffiliated churche...

That's fair to the extent we see Muslims as a political group, which can be done with any religion, but there are underlying belief systems that do ho...

Thanks for that post. If you guys need me to stand from a mountain top and proclaim my ignorance of Islam outside a very limited academic context I wi...

Except I'm not. A religious leader specifically decreed that Rushdie be murdered, a man went out to carry out his plan, the Guardian (not exactly a co...

You emoji affirmed @"Tate"'s distinction between the ideologies of the Sunni and Shia, so now you laugh at it, as if implying the Shia mainstream posi...

Well I think that's clear from what I said, with a disambiguation needed for the term "Muslim" needed by me. Should the OP have read "mainstream Shia ...

My question: Is the final answer: Yes to Shia Muslims, no to Sunni Muslims? Or is there another distinction I've missed with my Western eyes?

There are always radicals, but my concern is official group doctrine. It does seem the Sunnis may separate themselves from the Shia here, leaving thei...

I do find great comfort in this. I didn't cease looking for an answer to my question. https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/lu...

And I think you're wrong. My voice is moderate. A man was stabbed in the eye for a work of fiction, carrying out his wishes in the name of religion, a...

No, you just try to divert by chastising me for covert bigotry, but at best you've presented a tu quoque fallacy. If i treat Christians with kid glove...

I place this in the religion category for the purpose of posing this as a theology question, less so a political one, but obviously of political conse...

The solution remains more political than scientific. Most of Europe is aligned, but not so much the US, and surely not beyond the West. https://www.ya...

What he says needs to be done can happen only through universal cooperation, which is the panacea that will cure far more imminent threats than global...

https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI I found this a helpful broad summary of many of the issues in this thread. Carl Sagan from 1985 when things were slightly...

I'm not of that opinion. In any event, I disagree that you can't debate varying epistemological theories just because you already have one you rely up...

This just isn't accurate, as if my denial of mind reading is the result of indoctrination I've been unable to rise above as you have. I deny it becaus...