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Yes, I agree. I experience the "mystic" power of these myths which are therefore "true." Because it's trans-rational or sub-rational, I abandon any so...
September 17, 2016 at 20:29
Good points. For context, I feared hellfire as a child/teen. Mom was religious. The old man was profane and obscene. Death as nothingness was liberati...
September 17, 2016 at 19:57
Yes. Rorty got me interested in Hegel. As you may know, he wanted to abandon the mirror or lens paradigm. I agree. They are profound truths. They are ...
September 17, 2016 at 08:02
I really don't think so. Death is huge, of course. But don't we reason with ourselves about it? I've got this candle/flame analogy. We're melting cand...
September 17, 2016 at 07:43
One example of metaphor would be the "mirror of nature." We can think of the philosopher as a sort of mirror or lens through which to see objective re...
September 17, 2016 at 07:07
I knew they were friends, but when you say 'intimate'...that would be interesting. There's also the rumor that he was a spy.
September 17, 2016 at 06:56
Thanks for the tip. I'll check that one out.
September 17, 2016 at 06:34
I think you're right. The Phen. was rushed, too, if memory serves. I've read his early theological writings. They are quite clear, quite enjoyable. He...
September 17, 2016 at 06:33
That poem is deep. That little mouse is something like the truth of us, we who evolved from the nocturnal thieves of reptile eggs (or that's something...
September 17, 2016 at 06:27
That's where Kojeve and pragmatism start to blend. The "wise man" is satisfied. He scans the completed circle of his concept system and finds no gaps,...
September 17, 2016 at 06:23
There's a tradition of thinking "analogy as the core of cognition." Lakoff, Norman O. Brown, Vico, and Rorty come to mind. Derrida quotes Anatole Fran...
September 17, 2016 at 06:19
I finished that line with "we the living" and thought about throwing in an Ayn Rand joke. The question in both cases (to me) is what to do in the abse...
September 17, 2016 at 06:02
I like Derrida's face. I like his vibe in interviews. I really like The White Mythology, too. (If metaphysics is metaphorical, then metaphor is metaph...
September 17, 2016 at 05:21
I feel you. I told myself I was going to math tonight. Philosophy is my vice, my sin. On sensation-emotion, it's probably just differing idiosyncratic...
September 17, 2016 at 05:13
I hear you. I'm not attached to "enlightenment" as a term. But I think we find plenty of Western notions of transcendence or the wise man. I don't kno...
September 17, 2016 at 05:05
Truly, I've put some real time in with Blake, though it's been awhile. It's hard to parse "misunderstanding" away from assumption that a "real" meanin...
September 17, 2016 at 04:45
Ah, but surely you believe that feeling and sensation are more than the concept we need to speak about them? Continuing the above, how could truth be ...
September 17, 2016 at 03:44
It's hard to write about in black and white with the proper irony. It may come across like some 'duty' to beauty, but really it's the abolition of dut...
September 17, 2016 at 03:14
I find that if I can feel my way into a thinker's worldview --itself largely shaped by the heroic role that requires this worldview as a stage -- then...
September 17, 2016 at 02:24
Well, hell. I'd never deny cherry-picking. That's how personalities are constructed, in my view. Drive your cart and your plough over the bones of the...
September 17, 2016 at 02:07
I'd say look to context. You've maybe heard my spiel about "meaning by fiat." The unit of meaning is at least as big as a conversation. But maybe the ...
September 17, 2016 at 01:29
I get that. But how does one distinguish? That's exactly why there's a taboo against being "flaky" or superstitious. I'm really not trying to give you...
September 17, 2016 at 00:18
Yes, yes. If one's goal is a beautiful, joyful life, then everything is lit up by this goal. One can see various fundamental "poses" from the outside....
September 17, 2016 at 00:02
But for me taking them seriously more or less is being consumed by them. If you just mean that we have to step up and take care of business sometimes,...
September 16, 2016 at 23:58
I like holism. I can't lump the "spiritually enlightened" altogether, because maybe there is a plurality of states worth being described as "enlighten...
September 16, 2016 at 23:54
I don't mean to be dramatic about it, but we're talking about the same guy. I get the "prophet" vibe from Heidegger. "Only a God can save us." I'll gl...
September 16, 2016 at 23:38
I had Louis C. K. in mind. The best comedians laugh off the worst and most absurd aspects of life. They're also especially authentic. They convert ext...
September 16, 2016 at 23:01
Yes, I had a sense that I was moving against Heidegger, but that's almost to be expected. He was a Nazi. Where did he go wrong? I'm not fishing after ...
September 16, 2016 at 22:25
I agree. Show me the life! Beyond words there is a life actually lived, giving words weight. I don't think you're a pragmatist, but that's largely wha...
September 16, 2016 at 22:04
I wonder if modern civilization is in more chaos than usual, though. Perhaps in ages of less social mobility and information, there was less temptatio...
September 16, 2016 at 21:57
I think we more or less agree. I'm just pointing at the space outside the space of philosophy's tendency to be solemnly objective. How often do see a ...
September 16, 2016 at 21:48
Right. Systems aren't bad. We want our concepts to work well together. But there's a trans-propsitional irony or "feel" that is perhaps more important...
September 16, 2016 at 21:43
I think they're real, too, or that it's a bit silly to deny them this description. We live so much in the realm of ideas.
September 16, 2016 at 21:22
Does it prohibit us from bombing them in the name of our household gods? Maybe we have to distinguish between an abstract relativism and a gut-level a...
September 16, 2016 at 21:19
I'd say that we should look into the justification of violence. An in-group has standards for how members can treat one another. If a speaker for the ...
September 16, 2016 at 21:17
But one might in their defense read their narrative, non-systematic vision of the world as a different way to do philosophy-as-worldview or philosophy...
September 16, 2016 at 09:33
Yes, but there's some art out there that tries to express the highest feelings and insights. I get that from old religious paintings sometimes. At it'...
September 16, 2016 at 07:02
Lester Bangs interviewed Dick Clark once and Dick Clark called rock and roll "hamburgers and hotdogs." That's always stuck with me. Yes, Job and Eccle...
September 16, 2016 at 06:59
The heroic mind. Freedom, power, beauty, laughter. Who do we think we should we be? How does/did this who change? How do/did we get there, or close en...
September 16, 2016 at 06:44
I think I've been about a low as one can go. I would not have been lifted up by my own words. I already "knew" all that. Last time I was hit was about...
September 16, 2016 at 04:07
I listen to music on the bus, an otherwise dreary place. It's like a drug. Music is a drug. Some of the best lyrics, powerfully delivered, are the ide...
September 16, 2016 at 02:53
On the first point, I'm skeptical about an escape from an anthropomorphism-- and about the need to escape, which is human, all too human. On the secon...
September 16, 2016 at 00:15
Yes, indeed. I think it's the collision of common sense (bumping into objects) with a more rigorous abstract thought. Logically, there is no thing out...
September 16, 2016 at 00:11
Actually, I love that line. "I am the truth." Seriously, there's a Blakean or Satanic reading of the Gospels that has really influenced me. It's in Sa...
September 16, 2016 at 00:07
Yes, indeed. We have to make any tradition deeply our own. It's not real till we have twisted its proteins into our own. That's what I find in Jesus' ...
September 15, 2016 at 23:57
Yes, I agree. I call it "word-math." It sure would be nice if language worked like that for philosophers, but I don't think it works like that (or tha...
September 15, 2016 at 23:26
I'm very glad to see someone else contemplation self-identifications explicitly. That seems to be the skeleton key. Master words, master images, from ...
September 15, 2016 at 23:23
This is great. Yes, dimly understood desires, because understanding them almost requires a transition from an earnest religion of pure reason or a rig...
September 15, 2016 at 23:21
Well said. Though one might speak of their "deep" philosophy, which is a (joyful, stubborn) commitment to this irony, along with the ability to get th...
September 15, 2016 at 23:09
I like this. Irony at the center, the laughter of the gods at our solemn assertions. Exactly.
September 15, 2016 at 23:03