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Never heard that and do not know what it means.

Says Nagel. But what else does the word "like" mean?

Okay, I was thinking of deliberately constructed machines.

What if an artificial system can be productive, isn't that real intelligence? Further: The distinction between natural and artificial is the problem.

Can you further explain this? What is "mimicking" intelligence mean.

Do we jail people for burping?

Well, I am much smarter than you, I guess.

ok

Stay on topic.

If CNN reported that Trump insurrectionists seriously injured 200 cops, then yes.

FOX talking point. 200 cops seriously injured. Is this funny to you?

Attempted violent coup.

He's still not in prison.

Trump is a fascist.

What do you mean by Supernatural? I would think that means actions of God.

This is also Hegel's dialectic. In simple terms, all opposites are defined by a shared property.

My understanding of paraconsistent logic, from Graham Priest, is that things can contradict each other and still be true

Intelligence. I don't agree with Searle on the Chinese room.

We're done. Another time maybe.

What other way would it be real?

Then consciousness is not the same as intelligence. A system can be intelligent without be conscious.

You should start reading Hegel and quit pontificating.

Bashing Hegel as an idealist is the Analytic way to dismiss him without taking him seriously. The analytic school simply refuses to treat history as a...

I find the term "idealism" to be virtually meaningless.

Fine.

So, Hegel is not saying its materiality is meaningless.

That person is who I mean. Just saying, using him is not a good way to have a discussion with me.

Exactly. Look how often we conflate "objective" with "objectively true" and subjective with "my opinion/perspective."

Modern science invented the idea of subjectivity. Brief comment, but I can defend it.

My Hegelian dander is up. In his Philosophy of Art and Philosophy of Right, Hegel gives specific analyses of art and politics. He describes actual pai...

Specialization. Contemporary philosophers give common examples to illustrate their ideas, like, "Mary sees blue." Earlier figures like Frege used exam...

Then, every human being has a unique consciousness and the problem of a bat is just the problem of every single life form having unique consciousness

Just so you know, anyone who writes personal attacks is off my list.

Consciousness is always consciousness of real objects and events. Your reading of this passage is not accurate.

Yes, quite familiar with Pippin. I do not agree with his reading at all. He is just a Kantian giving a non-metaphysical interpretation of Hegel. So, t...

Hegel is not saying the materiality of the world is fake. Like Aristotle he is say the form of objects is what we conceive and therefore the intelligi...

Never mentioned realism. I think many bad readers of Hegel use the very categories of idealism/realism he is actually critical of.

I think Nagel puts a lot of weight on "like" and never really defines it. In the end, "what it is like" does not really mean anything.

There is a world. Not sure what you refer to as "overwhelmingly agree" about.

I think so.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

What is this "game?"

Yes, agree with that.

Why mention my name? I said nothing about quale.

Yes, but not as a function of subjectivity.

When I read his article my reaction was, why am I supposed to know what it is like to be me? Familiarity is not knowledge.

The concept of the subject is a modern notion. Aristotle uses the word "subject" only in the context of grammar.

I've studied a lot of his work and see that nowhere. Please cite something by Hegel.

There is no ideal world, only experience. "86. Inasmuch as the new true object issues from it, this dialectical movement which consciousness exercises...

"The Science of this pathway is the Science of the experience which consciousness goes through; the substance and its movement are viewed as the objec...